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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Bob, jumping in here.  (Late... but....I have a good excuse :-)
 
I'd make a big bet that the homesteaders are the ones who are going to be 
considered "rich".  They are the ones who are gaining knowledge first hand 
thru doing on how to survive as a species.  This is knowledge that somehow 
has been generally lost in a relatively short period of human history.  We 
are more fortunate know however, because there is additional knowledge that 
has been gained to survive (although much could be considered useless in 
extreme conditions).
 
If TS doesn't HTF - they will have lost nothing and will have lived a happy, 
hard worked life, and have passed down knowledge (hopefully) to others who 
are grateful.  I have always econsider the farmers (and all the various 
definitions of farmers especially the homesteader version ...) the ones with 
true wealth.
 
On the other hand, if TSHTF - those who are not prepared will lose the wealth 
that doesn't help one survive.
 
 
There are a lot of forms of "wealth".
 
KMart had 10 pairs of socks on sale for $5 last week.  I bought 40 pairs, 
estimating that would be enough to last thru a prolonged crisis, if one 
materializes.  I think those socks were a great investment.  I converted 
worthless paper money into 1) something that will make survival easier and 2) 
I would buy anyway over the years regardless of economics and 3) I think it 
is a great investment under various economic scenarios (i.e. all/most socks 
made in China, and inflation to hyperinflationary scenarios).  Others might 
not envy my stockpile of socks, but then again, ITSHTF they will.
 
 
A homesteader is by no means "dirt-poor".  IMO they are the wealthiest.  
 
Of course some farmers are "dirt poor", and it doesn't have to do so much 
with money, but with the way they are farming.
 
 
 
 


--- On Fri, 12/19/08, bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:




  But, I don't agree that only poor dirt farmers will inherit the future. 
That idea is preposteurous.  There is no sin in being poor.  There is also no
sin in 'not' being poor.




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Sheeessssh, Bev !!!
 
I sure hope you are feeling better.
 
Was this all caused by a spider bite?
 


--- On Fri, 12/19/08, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:


had to go to the ER last night...multiple problems...



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Your points are very well taken, leslie .......bobford

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--- On Mon, 12/22/08, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] big agri-biz
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 4:59 PM
> Bob, jumping in here.  (Late... but....I have a good excuse
> :-)
>  
> I'd make a big bet that the homesteaders are the ones
> who are going to be considered "rich".  They are
> the ones who are gaining knowledge first hand thru doing on
> how to survive as a species.  This is knowledge that
> somehow has been generally lost in a relatively short period
> of human history.  We are more fortunate know however,
> because there is additional knowledge that has been gained
> to survive (although much could be considered useless in
> extreme conditions).
>  
> If TS doesn't HTF - they will have lost nothing and
> will have lived a happy, hard worked life, and have passed
> down knowledge (hopefully) to others who are grateful.  I
> have always econsider the farmers (and all the various
> definitions of farmers especially the homesteader version
> ...) the ones with true wealth.
>  
> On the other hand, if TSHTF - those who are not prepared
> will lose the wealth that doesn't help one survive.
>  
>  
> There are a lot of forms of "wealth".
>  
> KMart had 10 pairs of socks on sale for $5 last week.  I
> bought 40 pairs, estimating that would be enough to last
> thru a prolonged crisis, if one materializes.  I think
> those socks were a great investment.  I converted worthless
> paper money into 1) something that will make survival easier
> and 2) I would buy anyway over the years regardless of
> economics and 3) I think it is a great investment under
> various economic scenarios (i.e. all/most socks made in
> China, and inflation to hyperinflationary scenarios). 
> Others might not envy my stockpile of socks, but then again,
> ITSHTF they will.
>  
>  
> A homesteader is by no means "dirt-poor".  IMO
> they are the wealthiest.  
>  
> Of course some farmers are "dirt poor", and it
> doesn't have to do so much with money, but with the way
> they are farming.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   But, I don't agree that only poor dirt farmers will
> inherit the future. 
> That idea is preposteurous.  There is no sin in being poor.
>  There is also no
> sin in 'not' being poor.
> 
> 
> 
>       
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