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Warren admitted :
> I know this because I saw it myself through the windshield of a black 
> helicopter that runs on hydrogen and baked beans.

I think the exhaust must have leaked
into your air intake .... big <g>  !!
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Subject: Re: [Homestead] Stocking up on food
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Don mourned :

> Yea but it will be hard to get Stone Arrogant Bastard Ale outside Southern 
> Ca.

Well, Don, that's what the Homestead
list is *for* - somebody out here knows
how to get that recipe and you gotta
have some empties someplace ... hehehe ...
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Don admitted :
> So far I have kept my vices to almond M&Ms but I do limit it to only once 
> every few weeks.  Now Pepsis are another matter.

Some purple grape juices - *not* "drink",
read the label, *grape juice* is a good
substitute for Pepsi - I persevered long
enough to lose the soda addiction. And
'soda pop' *is* another contributor to
swollen ankles, along with sodium and
the usual preservatives accompanying
sodium in packaged foods.
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Rob told us :
> Dutch Oven cooking is another one of those arts I have not mastered...There 
> is always the solar oven and the "hay box" (an insulated box made to hold a 
> hot pot of food, it get's it's heat from the stove and does it's cooking 
> over time in the insulated box).

Well, if it wasn't for those damn sleeked-down
hoods on vehicles now-a-days, you'd be able to 
set that ole Dutch oven on the engine block 
and have your dinner cooked when you finished 
driving - after checking it at a rest area half-way
to where ever ... now where did I read that .... 
mumble mumble ...
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> The article was reported in several of the new sources I watch. Anyway one 
> of the points was they had to come up with a way around the US technology. 
> I just read an article at 
> http://www.asianresearch.org/articles/2260.html<http://www.asianresearch.org/articles/2260.html>
>  
on China's nanotech revolution... 
Of course this has little to do with homesteading...
Rob

"...little to do with homesteading..." tongue in cheek, I bet,
'while visions of raising rice-crops instead of ......??? 
danced in his head ....'
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Gene opined :
> Perhaps this far right effort is necessary. Perhaps we have to work our way 
> through this to clarify what kind of a country we will be. It could get 
> ugly.

For a peek at one possible future, try, 
"Earth Abides" - I think it's by George
Stewart but not sure ....
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> his clientelle is growing and 
> They also market the home industry products of some other people, 
> We stop by about once a week to get some milk and cheese and honey -- he
sells honey from hives set on his place for several weeks in the summer.
Frequently, there are pre-schoolers and moms there looking at the cows and
being taken on a ride behind a tractor. He sells pre-arranged farm tours
and opens up the farm once a year for the public at large.
Lynn

"Diversity" as well as a 'niche' market base -
more power to the man ! He's introducing the
idea of 'work for yourself' *by example* and
proving it can be done. The community is
benefiting and the learning is being wider-
spread also by example - kids are seeing that 
their food does not come prepackaged and 
'untouched by human hands' - that was a 
big *draw* way back when, believe it or not .....
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Warren volunteered :
> I think Ramen noodle soup packs are still 5 for a dollar, unless George Bush
has raised the price. Basically bouillon and noodles, it makes a good base
to which you can add meat. 

And potatoes - in chunks - and throw out
half the chunks that will have absorbed at
least some of the sodium that makes all
packaged food so tasty.  I am serious
about this - you can also counter the
overload of salt-and-preservatives 
somewhat if you *faithfully* eat a 
banana-a-day. That 'presentation' of
potassium has worked to lessen and
even control the ankle-swelling I am 
subject to because one of my 'comfort
foods' is packaged Polish sausage ....

> Also, you will be pleasantly surprised by the new MRE's that can be bought 
> from an army surplus store. They even come with cool little devices by 
> which they can be cooked. The bonus book of damp-proof matches that comes 
> in every pack is a plus. 

Thanks for *that* tip, Warren, it's been
years since I was in one of those stores ....

> I miss the little four packs of Marlboros that tasted and smelled like 
> formaldehyde. (President Bush made them take the cigs out).

I guess his "Jesus" didn't smoke and he
doesn't want to taint the bodies - never mind ...
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Toni Hawryluk wrote:
>
> Well, if it wasn't for those damn sleeked-down
> hoods on vehicles now-a-days, you'd be able to
> set that ole Dutch oven on the engine block
> and have your dinner cooked when you finished
> driving - after checking it at a rest area half-way
> to where ever ... now where did I read that ....
> mumble mumble ...
>
_Manifold Destiny_
cookbook for truckers (and how I met my husband- he waited to see who
was cooking their supper on the dashboard of a car and showed me under
his hood)

Kathyann