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["Lynn Wigglesworth" <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>]

Bev; Did you follow the links? It doesn't say what WND says it does. WND 
says:

'The website of the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, however, states 
clearly the certification of live birth touted by the Obama campaign, White 
House press secretary Robert Gibbs and a host of other Obama defenders is 
not acceptable as a form of identification to qualify under this program. '

It doesn't say that at all. In fact, it negates their argument (why WND 
isn't taken seriously...ALWAYS check their 'facts'...they are frequesntly 
wrong). The Department of Hawaiian Homelands website says:

"Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are 
preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no 
longer issues Certificates of Live Birth.  When a request is made for a copy 
of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth." (see 
full text below)

Obama has a Certification of Live Birth...i.e. what the State Department of 
Health issues. Note, they NO LONGER ISSUE the Certificate of Live Birth 
everyone says Obama is hiding. He didn't "pick" anything. He was issued what 
they issue.

Full text:
Primary Documents

Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live 
Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to 
determine native Hawaiian qualification.

The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live 
Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because 
they are official government records documenting an individual's birth.  The 
Certificate of Live Birth generally has more information which is useful for 
genealogical purposes as compared to the Certification of Live Birth which 
is a computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person's 
birth.  Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) 
are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) 
no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth.  When a request is made for a 
copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.

Lynn Wigglesworth

Tioga Co. PA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "EarthNSky" <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Has anyone heard about this?


> At the bottom of this page I have pasted another paragraph you wrote in
> another post because I feel that this link addresses both posts.
> http://www.theconservativespotlight.com/71/hawaii-admits-obamas-hawaiian-certification-of-live-birth-not-acceptable-as-a-birth-certificate/
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/m83hyz
>
> Remember that there are three types of 'birth certificates' in Hawaii,
> and he picked the one that is legally weak.
>
> B
>
> Lynn Wigglesworth wrote:
>
> > Janice Okubo, director of communication for the Hawaii Department of 
> > Health
> > explained that an 'out of state' birth certificate still lists where you
> > were born...Bali was the example she gave. It would be a Hawaiian birth
> > certificate showing that you were born in Bali, NOT Hawaii.
>
> > There are others, too. It's all so bogus; a Late Birth Certificate
> > (mentioned in the above petition) clearly SAYS it's a  Certificate of
> > Hawaiian Birth, an 'after the fact' certificate, not the 'certificaton of
> > live birth' Obama has shown. Even the bill to amend the Federal Election
> > Campaign Act of 1971 requires candidates to provide what Obama has 
> > provided.
> >
> > Maybe I don't understand the whole 'long form' thing. I've never had one.
> > The short form has been all I ever needed. How many people actually
> > have/need a long form birth certificate? I just got a copy of mine from 
> > the
> > state a couple of years ago, and there was no choice long or short form,
> > they just sent the short form. Did the other candidates supply a long 
> > form
> > birth certificate? Just trying to figure out why people are so obsessed
> > about this..it's been a rainy day, so there isn't much else to do.
>
> And
>
> > > I have to wonder if he realizes that every time he addresses one rumor, 
> > > 5
> > > more pop up. There is absolutely no satisfying some of his critics. If 
> > > it
> > > were me, I'd put some effort into supplying documents to address 
> > > people's
> > > concerns, but I'm not him. I also wonder if he's just thumbing his nose 
> > > at
> > > his critics because he can (not a good stance for a President to take). 
> > > I'm
> > > not a big fan of Obama's policies, but I don't like the witch hunt, 
> > > either.
> > > People called for his birth certificate, he provided it, with statements
> > > from Hawaiian officials that it's legit, but that's not good enough.
>
>
>
> --
> "Never expect magic from no where"  Baringo (Kenyan) working motto
> http://erthnsky.blogspot.com/
> EarthNSky Farm, NW Georgia, USA
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