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  • From: "Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>
  • To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Has anyone heard about this?
  • Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:28:38 -0800

The man traveled out of the country to write his book. On the foreign relations committed he visited visited Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan in Asia; Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, and the Palestinian Territories in the Middle East; and Chad, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Kenya, and South Africa in Africa.

To get a U.S. passport at that time he would have needed a birth certificate. All that traveling was done prior to 2007. So why does he suddenly produce a birth certificate dated 2007?

Lynda
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Wigglesworth" <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Has anyone heard about this?


Bev; Did you follow the links? It doesn't say what WND says it does. WND
says:

'The website of the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, however, states
clearly the certification of live birth touted by the Obama campaign, White
House press secretary Robert Gibbs and a host of other Obama defenders is
not acceptable as a form of identification to qualify under this program. '

It doesn't say that at all. In fact, it negates their argument (why WND
isn't taken seriously...ALWAYS check their 'facts'...they are frequesntly
wrong). The Department of Hawaiian Homelands website says:

"Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are
preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no
longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy
of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth." (see
full text below)

Obama has a Certification of Live Birth...i.e. what the State Department of
Health issues. Note, they NO LONGER ISSUE the Certificate of Live Birth
everyone says Obama is hiding. He didn't "pick" anything. He was issued what
they issue.

Full text:
Primary Documents

Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live
Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to
determine native Hawaiian qualification.

The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live
Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because
they are official government records documenting an individual's birth. The
Certificate of Live Birth generally has more information which is useful for
genealogical purposes as compared to the Certification of Live Birth which
is a computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person's
birth. Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth)
are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH)
no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a
copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.

Lynn Wigglesworth

Tioga Co. PA

----- Original Message ----- From: "EarthNSky" <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Has anyone heard about this?


At the bottom of this page I have pasted another paragraph you wrote in
another post because I feel that this link addresses both posts.
http://www.theconservativespotlight.com/71/hawaii-admits-obamas-hawaiian-certification-of-live-birth-not-acceptable-as-a-birth-certificate/
or
http://tinyurl.com/m83hyz

Remember that there are three types of 'birth certificates' in Hawaii,
and he picked the one that is legally weak.

B

Lynn Wigglesworth wrote:


Janice Okubo, director of communication for the Hawaii Department of
Health
explained that an 'out of state' birth certificate still lists where you
were born...Bali was the example she gave. It would be a Hawaiian birth
certificate showing that you were born in Bali, NOT Hawaii.

There are others, too. It's all so bogus; a Late Birth Certificate
(mentioned in the above petition) clearly SAYS it's a Certificate of
Hawaiian Birth, an 'after the fact' certificate, not the 'certificaton of
live birth' Obama has shown. Even the bill to amend the Federal Election
Campaign Act of 1971 requires candidates to provide what Obama has
provided.

Maybe I don't understand the whole 'long form' thing. I've never had one.
The short form has been all I ever needed. How many people actually
have/need a long form birth certificate? I just got a copy of mine from
the
state a couple of years ago, and there was no choice long or short form,
they just sent the short form. Did the other candidates supply a long
form
birth certificate? Just trying to figure out why people are so obsessed
about this..it's been a rainy day, so there isn't much else to do.

And

I have to wonder if he realizes that every time he addresses one rumor,
5
more pop up. There is absolutely no satisfying some of his critics. If
it
were me, I'd put some effort into supplying documents to address
people's
concerns, but I'm not him. I also wonder if he's just thumbing his nose
at
his critics because he can (not a good stance for a President to take).
I'm
not a big fan of Obama's policies, but I don't like the witch hunt,
either.
People called for his birth certificate, he provided it, with statements
from Hawaiian officials that it's legit, but that's not good enough.



--
"Never expect magic from no where" Baringo (Kenyan) working motto
http://erthnsky.blogspot.com/
EarthNSky Farm, NW Georgia, USA
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