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["Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>]

Well, it is too hot to do much here.  A week of temps over 106 and so I'm 
sitting in front of the computer vegging.  Here's an interesting tidbit to 
add to the discussion:

"[§338-17.8]  Certificates for children born out of State. (a)  Upon 
application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director 
of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided 
that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal 
parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of 
Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal 
residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption 
of such child."

So, getting a certificate from Hawaii doesn't prove where one is born at 
all!

Also, it isn't just Berg who filed suit. 
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4784592/1961-hawaiian-birth-certificate

This one is more interesting than most of the "stuff" on the net.  And, it 
does raise more questions, some of them, of course, more interesting to 
folks who are fans of Mr. Spock <g>

Lynda
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."  Aldous Huxley

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "EarthNSky" <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
> Exactly Drew, there are also passport anomalies and school records that
> suggest that he is not a citizen, but like James and Drew said, it is a
> mute point now.  During the election, the vetting process was a joke.
> Anyone that suggested anything other than Obama's official story was
> called a racist or ignored totally.  His grandmother was not the only
> Kenyan who supposedly attended his birth in Kenya.  There were quite a
> few people in attendance from the village, including half siblings, and
> Kenya even claims that he was born there-he is a Kenyan citizen, for
> sure, they list him as an Arab-African, not African American.(He is also
> an Indonesian citizen-that came by default when he was adopted)
> Furthermore, since you mentioned the hospital, we could always ask his
> sister, who first claimed that he was born in Kapiolani Hospital, and
> later in another interview, she claimed he was born in Queens hospital.
> Why all the different stories about where one man was born?  It is
> beyond suspicious.
> All of this was ignored by the American MSM because Obama's team put a
> photocopy of a birth certificate online-a certificate, I might add,
> unlike others issued in that year.  It seems that even in this day of
> million dollar payoffs for hush money and photoshop, people will still
> give more credibility to something they see online as to try to piece
> together the truth from multiple sources.
>
> It really doesn't matter anymore.  The truth will eventually be revealed
> to our great grandchildren in 100 years.  I happen to believe he was
> born in Kenya, but it really doesn't matter at this point.  It will
> never be debated, like you say.  There is a saying we use in my family
> that "that's close enough for Government work", and I suppose so.  Had
> his mother been 19 instead of 18, he would still be an American citizen
> even if he was born in Mombasa.  Close enough.  However, we do have
> rules and laws, and in my opinion, the Democratic party made a mockery
> of those when they nominated Barack Hussein Obama as President without
> looking into his past a bit more than they did.
>
> I don't think we should discriminate based on where someone was born
> when it comes to holding public office.  I believe there should be more
> of a residency requirement of sorts.  If Obama was born in Kenya, and
> lived his entire life in the US of A, then why should he not be eligible
> just based on a few days in his life?  It is stupid.  If a man must be
> 35 or 40 or whatever years of age to become President, then I say first
> look at his education and childhood to see if he was educated here, then
> report all the facts-the truth, and let the public make a decision as to
> whether or not that person is a suitable candidate.  People can't
> control where they were born any more than they can control their skin
> color.  I'd be pissed if I could not run for office in the US because I
> was born and say spent the first week of my life in Finland or Canada.
> That's crazy.  I understand the intention of the law, but I think it
> needs some revision.  If Osama Bin Laden's wife gave birth in NYC and
> raised the child here until he was say 5, and then sent him off to Saudi
> Arabia or Egypt for 'school' and then he comes back to the states, goes
> to college here and lives here and in Saudi he would have no trouble
> qualifying to run for office as he would be a US Citizen.  That would be
> a far more crazy thing that Obama being born in Kenya and raised in
> Hawaii and Indonesia. It is all just crazy.
> Oh and there is another line of argument that states that Obama was a US
> citizen, but when he was adopted in Indonesia and became a citizen
> there, his US citizenship was relinquished.  I'm not sure about the
> details of that one as the laws are complex involving minors and such,
> just know there is some debate about all that.
> Also, Obama has lied about his various names.  When asked by the State
> of Illinois upon taking his bar exam about other names he has been known
> by, he only listed Barack Hussein Obama, and omitted Barry Soetoro,
> Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, and Barry Dunham.  Why would he lie?
> You know what I really think?  I don't even think he is the biological
> son of Barack Hussein Obama. I think that is why we haven't seen his
> medical records released.  I think he is the biological son of Frank
> Marshall Davis, and if he doesn't know this, he may suspect it. I'd love
> to see a DNA on that in a paternity case.  IMO, Barack looks like Davis,
> and he sure loves to write and journal like Davis...there's a Chicago
> connection, and a Hawaii connection.   We may find out one day that
> Obama was born in Kenya, but I seriously doubt we will ever know if
> Davis is his biological father.  That would be too weird.  If you have
> never seen pictures, you should check it out.
> http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/davis-as-obama-daddy.jpg
> http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/aobama888.jpg
> I have a great one on my computer.  It has obviously been pulled from
> the web because I can no longer find it, but it shows Obama and Davis
> side by side in almost mirror image poses. The caption at the bottom
> says: Luke, I am your father...  LOL...
>
> Oh well, enough Obama speculation for now.
> I don't care where he was born, just hoping he can close Guantanamo
> before 2010 like he promised...it'd be nice to catch OBL and be able to
> save some money on healthcare, but that's asking a lot.