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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

James, I want to ask a question and I would like for you to give me an honest 
answer, but I don't want you to think I am being antaganistic or arguing with 
you.  Sometimes I seem to word my comments and questions in a way that 
receives an answer that , though a good answer, is not actually answering my 
question.  I will continue to try to improve my writing skills.

For my question.  Many people in the city are quite fit, as you say, but not 
fit enough for the rigourous work that you do on a regular basis.  I' will 
agree with you.  But, do you really think we, as a country, a society, are 
going back to agragrian susteanance living?

If your answer is yea, I understand why you think many will perish.  But, 
even in a horrid scenario; I do not see the answer to the above question as 
"yes".  I don't even think it is a possibility.  Maybe this is where I get 
mixed messages in some of the conversations, not only with you, but also with 
others.

The way you describe working your homestead is very much like the way some of 
my relatives and members of my rural communities worked what they called 
their farms.  Push Ploughing , all day long, handpicking acres of corn.  I 
have seen all of that and done much, myself.  But, that was another time and 
place.....

I'm always interested in your outlook.........................

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--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com> wrote:

> From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld  -- feel free to ignore
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 7:42 PM
> > >City people think Country people are dumb,
> uneducated, easily manipulated 
> > hicks.  Ruralites think that people living in the city
> are weak , soft, 
> > p*ssies.  Both views are naiive. 
> 
> Many of us have lived in cities and very large cities at
> that.  No matter how 
> fit someone thinks they are because of a few rounds of
> handball or thrice 
> visits to gym, they cannot endure the rigors of continuous
> physical work unless 
> the slowly condition to it.
> 
> City popinjays  have come here and wanted to try their hand
> at the bucksaw at 
> the wood pile.  Young, strapping, seemingly fit people and
> after ten minutes 
> they can hardly breathe or move.  And yet we keep it up for
> two hours at a 
> time with hardly a pause.  I'll never forget the look
> on one visitor's face when 
> the (then) 9 year old daugher hoisted up the 50 lb sack of
> corn and carried it 
> uphill to the barn.  Or when Herself told me to fetch some
> more cabbage and 
> when I said I'd go off to the garden and get some, the
> remark was "You don't 
> mean you are going to WALK there??!!"  Sure it's
> the equivalent of six blocks 
> away and on he way from the garden back to the house you
> will be 100 feet higher 
> than when you started, we don't think anything of it
> and make the walk as 
> many as twenty times in a day.
> 
> No, our opinion that the city dweller is quite the
> marshmallow compared to 
> small farm worker is quite well founded.  The belief that
> there is not much 
> difference is what is naive.
> 
> 
> James
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