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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

If people aren't "riled up" now, what will it take ?  I don't like the term 
"sheeple" that a lot of people use.  To me , it is undignified to refer to my 
"fellow man" in such manner, but, I don't know of a proper term for modern 
western man.  

There should be a thouisand empty nooses hanging on certain streets right now 
as warning.  There should at least be enough people 'in the street' to make 
TPTB uncomfortable.  Hell, they are still very comfortable.  They are still 
called 'the best and the brightest' in spite of the ruin they have caused.  
It is 'expected' for them and their families to live lives of comfort.  Why?  
Why are they not now afraid of the millions of people whom they have harmed?


As long as they can t*x you and your property; you "are" fully in "their 
economic world".  Don't think they can't or won't quintiple your property 
taxes every six months, if it suits their purposes. 

 You have children, I do not.  I try not to worry about my brother's 
children, but I do.  I really don't think they will ever know the kind of 
freedom from governmental and corporate interference in their lives with 
which you and I grew up.  If I got a woman preganant today, there is no way 
in hell I  would ever allow that child a ss# or any other identifier.  I 
would give him that 'freedom" which he could decide to keep or throw away as 
an adult.

With the freedom/privacy/ stuff, we have been like the frogs in the slowly 
boiling water.  I don't see how things could ever go back to the way it was 
before.

I hope you are right that people will become riled enough to demand changes; 
but I sure don't know what could happen that is much worse than what is now 
happening......................bobford

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--- On Fri, 11/28/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Kuntsler , new commentary, super-inflation
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 10:03 AM
> > You have greater faith in the decency of the people in
> power.  Thhat is 
> > our big disagreement.  I have faith that they will
> remain as unscrupulous, 
> > bloodthirsty and ruthless as
> >ever...................bobford
> 
> Bob; I think you have totally misunderstood me. I have
> absolutely NO faith 
> in the people in power. The power-hungry are a whole
> different species. I 
> ignore them and stay out of their world as much as
> possible; the only 
> relevance they have for me is when their world overlaps
> mine and they try to 
> control my life. I'm not invested in their economic
> world, so they can play 
> their power games as much as they like. The
> 'culture' where they can get 
> away with their shenanagans is THEIR culture, not mine. I
> live in a 
> different world, with a different culture. You are more in
> their world than 
> in mine, so it's hard to explain how irrelevant their
> actions are to me.
> 
>  It's the many, many 'normal' people I have
> faith in. People who sooner or 
> later will see that the emperor has no clothes. People who
> will only put up 
> with so much of this nonsense. They are still out there;
> they just have to 
> get sufficiently riled. Maybe it won't happen if my
> lifetime, but I think if 
> Obama delivers more of the same (as it's looking like
> he will), there's 
> going to be a lot of angry people.Sooner or later,
> something is going to 
> blow.
> 
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> Tioga Co. PA 
> 
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