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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

State constitutions are easily changed.  The state is part of the property 
tax here because of some federal judges mmandate that (primarily 
non-citizens, for what its worth) were not receiving the same quality of 
education as children in North Scottsdale and that that was inherently 
discriminatory.  This is vaguely my memory anyone.  So, the laws, 
constitution, whatever, was changed so that we could tax even more for 
schools which remain snakepits.

California just changed their state constitution to take away rights from 
homosexuals.  

Lynn, the 'state' is already in my business and in my life.  Different facets 
of them have been bugging the **** out of me for years.  I'm not imaging a 
rare tornado.  I'm a simple man; if they can spend a great deal of resources 
bothering me, they can do the same to anyone.

If I decide to walk down Central Ave with a holstered gun, or go to the 
metropolitan church and marry a man; or carry bags of cash on my person or in 
my automobile, none of that should be the gov'ts business.  But, it all is 
their business.  They can take the gun (in az, they usually won't); they can 
say my marriage isn't legal (in AZ, if I were gay, I would have similar civil 
type rights, but could not marry), and they would definitely take the cash ( 
and I woul sdhabe to go to court , spend more money than possible to 'hope' I 
could convince the court to return "my money".  Civil forfeirture does not 
recognize my rights.  It is one of the most draconian of all statist 
abilities, and it happens daily.

Look,were both hoping for the same results; I just think things are already 
much , much, more dire than you seem to think.  BO is not going to help; no 
politician will.  I have no clue what the worst case scenario will be.  But, 
I will submit what I think is going to happen.

--For the next year or so, on the big issues like war and taxes, BO will 
govern 'exactly' as did GWB

-- Within 2 years (probably sooner) we will see fantastic inflations, and BO 
and the Dems will raise taxes on everyhthing and everyone.

--Not only will BO and the dems not rescind any of the p*triot *ct crap, they 
will strenthen those type of tyrannical laws.

--We will be in a new war, probably with Iran

-- I truly believe that BO will re-instate the draft

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--- On Fri, 11/28/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Kuntsler , new commentary, super-inflation
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 12:00 PM
> > The state can t*x your property, if they please.  I
> understand your point 
> > .  I'm simply saying that no one is safe from the
> 'state'.  I am 
> > anti-statist, as are you.  I fear them; not respect -
> fear ;  because I 
> > believe the state is inherently malovelent.  It would
> be like having black 
> > widows or vampire bats inside your house.  They do
> serve a purpose, as 
> > does the state.  But neither >should be that
> involved with your person or 
> > property.
> 
> States have constitutions that tell them what they can and
> can't do. But 
> there's no way to argue with what "could"
> happen.
> 
> My mother watches a Weather Channel show called "It
> could happen tomorrow" 
> or something like that. She lives in absolute fear of
> tornadoes, despite the 
> fact that a tornado in these parts is rarer than hen's
> teeth, and she 
> watches this show to whip up that fear. She's going to
> fall down her 
> basement steps and kill herself, fleeing some imaginary
> tornado. Irrational 
> fear.
> 
>  There are enough bad things happening already that we need
> to pay attention 
> to without thinking up new ones that haven't happened
> yet.
> 
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> Tioga Co. PA 
> 
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