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["Lynn Wigglesworth" <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>]

> "Monsanto et al" and the "heads of finance" are the same people.  Just as 
> the Democtrats and republicans are the same people.  Change the model, the 
> same people will run the new model.  People on the 'fringe' , I think, are 
> lulling themselves into a sense of false security, I think.  But, I am 
> sometimes >wrong..........

They are the same people in that they are powerful people with their fingers 
in the government pie, getting money and rules that favor their industries. 
That's why I've thought all along that Obama can't make any real 
change...same people running thinge behind the scenes. He put Michael Taylor 
on his transition team; Taylor is in the revolving door between Monsanto and 
the USDA...worked for both.

What do you mean by "false sense of security"? Because we think we will come 
out OK when thimgs fall apart?  I think that 'we' (the fringe) are so fed up 
with the way things are that we welcome major change, no matter how painful 
it may be. Just wanting and being ready for the kinds of change Kuntsler 
talks about gives us the advantage. I can't be responsible for people who 
choose to live in the city; they will have to find their own way. It will be 
sad times, moreso for some than others. The more immersed one is in the 
status quo, the harder change will be.

Lynn Wigglesworth
Tioga Co. PA