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[Alejandro Lieber <dos AT lieber.com.ar>]

Sindi:

Sorry the time it took me to respond.

Why I use a 386 ? ........

Why people use sails instead of motor boats?

Why people still like steam engines ?

Why some like to have a Ford T ?

I think, it is to prove that still you can do a lot with old things.

In Argentina, Pentiums are not free, even 486's are sold.

sindi keesan wrote:
> On Thu, 4 May 2006, Alejandro Lieber wrote:
>
> > Sindi:
> >
> > Basic Linux without X runs nearly intantly  in a 40Mhz  386DX.
>
>
> I have used it on a 386 laptop with 3MB RAM, but it is not as fast as on 
> a 486 or pentium, partly because of the slow LCD screen.  I forget 
> whether the FPU made a difference.  386 cpus run cooler and slower, so 
> we have kept a board for use with data acquisition hardware to be left 
> on all the time.
7>>
> > I also run several DOS internet programs in a 20Mhz 80286 with 1Mby !!!!
>
>
> I have DOS lynx (with lxpic for viewer) and arachne and kermit on a 
> computer with 3MB.  Kermit is happy with 1MB, as is netmail (mail 
> program) and agent (ftp program) and wget.  Lynx really needs the 3MB.
> Netmail needs either a modem faster than 2400 bps or a hard drive on an 
> XT, otherwise something times out.
>
> I started with an 8MHz computer with 512K RAM and no slots.  Kept it 
> going for about 12 years.
>
> > Both much faster than this Celeron 800 running Red Hat 9, Ubuntu or 
> > Windows 98
> > (all in the sameHD).
>
>
> Redhat 6 took 5 minutes to boot on a 486 with 12MB RAM and another 5 min 
> to load X with a small window manager.  On our fastest computer at the 
> time, a newer Redhat took 10 minutes to load a wordprocessor, with 128MB 
> RAM.
>
> I was asking why you are using a 386 when pentiums are being thrown out. 
> Is it because they use less electricity?
>
> I like my Hercules video, it shows both underline and bold (in DOS, not 
> in linux properly) and is small and easy to read.  But unfortunately 
> many websites need more than 80 columns to see without scrolling.  So I 
> have two monitors plugged into linux and use both - the 17" VGA only 
> when I need video, or more columns.  I am in DOS right now with TTL.
>
> > Alejandro Lieber.
> >
> > sindi keesan wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 3 May 2006, Alejandro Lieber wrote:
> > >
> > > > I still use BL3 in a 386DX with 8Mby and hercules monitor
> > > > No X.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Why do you prefer a 386 to something faster?
> > > I also use Hercules monitor, it is easier to read, smaller, and cooler.
> > >
> > > > Alejandro
> > > >
> > > > sindi keesan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I thought we had all our hardware under control yesterday but now 
> > > > > we have
> > > > > a 700MHz dumpster find that only needs a quieter power supply fan 
> > > > > and a
> > > > > non-stripy video card.  (They kept RAM and hd but left 2x cd burner 
> > > > > and
> > > > > cpu and Live! card).  Our new cutoff may be 400MHz with 128MB RAM for
> > > > > desktops, which is suitable for kernel 2.4.31 and a larger glibc, and
> > > > > 100MHz pentium for laptops (16MB).  Is anyone still using a 486 
> > > > > with BL?
> > > > > Perhaps BL should split into a desktop branch suitable for 200MHz 
> > > > > cpu and
> > > > > 64MB RAM, and a laptop/floppy disk branch, with different kernels and
> > > > > libraries.  BL4 for desktops with qemu package, etc?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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