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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways
- From: Lee Flier <leeflier@comcast.net>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways
- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:21:35 -0500
I think possibly you misunderstood my meaning again, because from your other posts it sounds like we're in agreement. I probably mis-stated this slightly. What I mean is that many people treat "science" as an end in itself and not as a means to greater well being or "cultivation/perfection of the human being." This results in a lot of very poor application of science.
Of course science is supposed to simply be pursuit of the truth, regardless whether it's something comforting to us or something we want to hear. But scientific discovery is one thing and its application is another. Too often the discoveries of someone simply seeking truth are funded and put into play by people with very "anti-human" agendas.
Tripp Tibbetts wrote:
Lee Flier wrote:
Science is a means to an end, and if you don't have the end in mind -"cultivation and perfection of human beings" or "care of the earth/care of people," then you will practice very poor science.
I could probably take you to task about this perception of science, but I liked where our conversation was headed before these last two addenda better, so I won't.
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[permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
fdnokes, 12/12/2009
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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
Lee Flier, 12/13/2009
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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
fdnokes, 12/13/2009
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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
Lee Flier, 12/13/2009
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fdnokes, 12/13/2009
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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
Lee Flier, 12/13/2009
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Tripp Tibbetts, 12/13/2009
- Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways, Lee Flier, 12/13/2009
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Tripp Tibbetts, 12/13/2009
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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
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