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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways
- From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways
- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:49:07 -0500
Lee Flier wrote:
Or worse - they're control freaks using the mantle of "permaculture teacher" to push their personal agenda on others. I've seen this a lot, unfortunately. Most of these folks try to hoist Mollison on his own petard by pointing out that permaculture is meant to be decentralized, therefore if they disagree with Mollison on something, Mollison must be wrong, he's not a god or a guru, etc. All of which is true, but beside the point.
___EXACTLY___. Case in point, much of the discussion that has ensued here over the past month. After the fact, after all the work has been done by Mollison and Holmgren and many others pursuing their approach to developing the permaculture movement "now its time to decentralize the movement, rid it of any central authoritarian heirarchy, and give the work of writers, teachers and keepers of the keys away for free to the public at large. It works both ways; useful resources need to be made available to the world, a common knowledgebase needs to be built and made available for free, but it needs to be done in a way that respects the hard work of people offering products and services they sell to earn their livelihood; after all they have committed themselves to do this for a lifetime, i.e. locked in with no other options for generating income in some if not most cases.
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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
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- Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways, Lee Flier, 12/13/2009
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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
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Re: [permaculture] OT Re: the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 12/13/2009
- Re: [permaculture] OT Re: the gardener's shadow falls both ways, fdnokes, 12/13/2009
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Re: [permaculture] OT Re: the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 12/13/2009
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[permaculture] OT Re: the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
fdnokes, 12/13/2009
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