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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways
- From: Lee Flier <leeflier@comcast.net>
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- Subject: Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways
- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:32:25 -0500
Toby Hemenway wrote:
A couple of notes: Mitch's horror story about his PDC shows one of the big drawbacks to decentralized processes. Those "teachers" were not following the curriculum set down by Mollison in the PDC handbook.Yeah, no kidding. :D The curriculum is pretty clear cut, really, and people are either following it or they ain't, and if they ain't, it ain't a PDC. :D
I don't think these folks had the chops to teach a PDC, and were filling the days with crap to make up for their own incompetence.Or worse - they're control freaks using the mantle of "permaculture teacher" to push their personal agenda on others. I've seen this a lot, unfortunately. Most of these folks try to hoist Mollison on his own petard by pointing out that permaculture is meant to be decentralized, therefore if they disagree with Mollison on something, Mollison must be wrong, he's not a god or a guru, etc. All of which is true, but beside the point.
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Re: [permaculture] the gardener's shadow falls both ways,
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