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- From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
- To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] true relief for P Oak, P Ivy
- Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:22:51 -0800
Loren Davidson wrote:
At 07:46 PM 10/27/02 -0800, Treesa Jane Rogerson wrote:
Dr Andrew Weil suggested what intuition did as a kid.
HE says when it is bad, and itching crazy, after it has already become a
rash:
Expose the affected area to hot running water, as hot as can stand it.
You'll experience a skin-gasm that will feel so satisfying yet itch like
crazy for just a moment. What you are doing is overloading the nerves
sending the 'itch' message to the brain.
Hmmm...that sounds like a solution for the itching, but based on what I've read, may actually spread the urushiol oils to other parts of your body, which leaves the cause intact...though I could be wrong...
Actually, it won't, Loren. The only time you could do that is immediately after exposure and before washing. If you suspect you've come into contact with PI/PO/PS go for the soap and water immediately or sooner. I have heard that
washing with warm or hot water will spread it but I don't believe it. To be
sure
water doesn't spread it make up piles of soap/water lather first and apply that directly and carefully to the suspect area(s); work it up with more water and soap lather and finish off with hot water or whatever is available. If yyou've heard to apply chlorine, gasoline or kerosine first to deactivate it, DON'T;
they are all highly toxic, the chlorine will make you feel bad for a day or
so.
I would then run hot water over the affected area, dry off with paper towels and then follow the procedure I outlined in my previous post on this topic.
I'll list it again here:
2) Immediately afterward dry off with paper towel then
apply, if you have it, fresh juicy stalks of Jewelweed
(mash them up directly onto the rash - drip the juice,
try to contain it over the affected area and let it dry -
it will seem to glaze over and form a coating. If you only have
jewelweed tincture use that. I wonder if powdered dried jewelweed would
work?
3) Lightly dust the rash-covered area with powdered goldenseal
4) Take some handflls of fresh comfrey and, using a wooden mallet
and a wooden board, mash/macerate the comfrey into a poultice and apply it as a compress over top the goldenseal. Wrap entire area with strips of cloth.
IF uncomfortable itching begins again, clean everything off the rash and start over following the entire procedure 1) through 4).
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L.F.London
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[permaculture] roundup
, (continued)
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[permaculture] roundup,
Rick Valley, 10/23/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Roundup - agree with Flick,
John Irwin, 10/24/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Roundup - agree with Flick,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 10/24/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Rhus Roundup, Rick Valley, 10/25/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Rhus Roundup sympathetic horror, mbgrey, 10/25/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Rhus antidotes/preventatives, John Schinnerer, 10/26/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Rhus antidotes/preventatives, Mark Ludwig, 10/26/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Rhus antidotes/preventatives, John Schinnerer, 10/28/2002
- [permaculture] true relief for P Oak, P Ivy, Treesa Jane Rogerson, 10/27/2002
- Re: [permaculture] true relief for P Oak, P Ivy, Loren Davidson, 10/27/2002
- Re: [permaculture] true relief for P Oak, P Ivy, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 10/28/2002
- Re: [permaculture] true relief for P Oak, P Ivy, Mark Ludwig, 10/28/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Roundup - agree with Flick,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 10/24/2002
- Re: [permaculture] true relief for P Oak, P Ivy, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 10/28/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Roundup - agree with Flick,
John Irwin, 10/24/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Rhus antidotes/preventatives, Rick Valley, 10/28/2002
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[permaculture] roundup,
Rick Valley, 10/23/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Re: roundup, jeff, 10/23/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re: roundup,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 10/23/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re: roundup,
Mark, 10/23/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Re: roundup, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 10/23/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re: roundup,
Mark, 10/23/2002
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