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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Have you received your White House Spam today?
 
If you have, you must certainly feel loved by the Shiney One........... <puke 
puke>
 
The White House has started their own Spam Campaign.  Why am I not surprised? 
 When he was running for office, the only way I could attempt to find out 
what his platforms were, was to provide an email address.... I absolutely 
didn't like what I read, and had no intention of looking any further at him 
for a candidate.  The next thing I know I was getting spam from his campaign. 
 

OK, let's see.
 
A lot of people don't have insurance.  So the government is going to force 
people to get  purchase insurance.  Who benefits?  Are the health care 
providers by any chance going to get a windfall amount of business from 
previously untapped customers?  We can call this Stimulus III (Stimulus I was 
for Wall Street, Stimulus II was for auto workers), and Stimulus IV will be a 
round 2 for wall street.
 
And people who previously couldn't afford insurance now have to PAY insurance 
premiums,,,,,,, uh with what money?  (Regardless if full or reduced rates.)  
 
Small employers are probably eyeballing that 8% penalty tax if they don't 
provide health insurance, and those small enough can easier fire some people 
get down to the next lower penalty tax.  Course another idea would be to 
decrease wages by that 8% citing the increased tax burdon, and let their 
employees go ahead and sign for for Obamacare.  Say what?  Well government is 
effectively trying to force employers to provide a benefit that far exceeds 
8% of a lot of people's monthly wage.  It costs them less to take the penalty 
than to get a private policy, hence people are forced into Obamacare, and of 
course nothing stops employers from lowering wages, as least not yet in the 
hyperinflation cycle.
 
Is Obama-math based on forcing people to pay premiums, with some pigs more 
equal than others, and the more equal ones get discounts on their 
premiums..... and then reducing benefits covered,,,,,,,,,,, and somehow this 
fuzzy math isn't supposed to impact the government budget... yeah right.  But 
under Obama-math, this won't bankrupt the nation.  I take it this is the blue 
pill.....
 
He reminds me of my old boss............ who couldn't understand for the life 
him that if he sold his services/products for less than cost that he couldn't 
even break-even, more less make a profit............ and the scary thing is 
he had a 4 year degree in finance.......... from one of the esteemed schools.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:


From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] The future of eldercare in the US
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Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 2:41 AM


There is a section in the bill where if you make "x" dollars or less, they 
will pick up part of what you pay or something of the sort.

Any which way you look at it you are talking bankrupting the country.

Lynda
The press corp is fact-adverse but very fable friendly.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "EarthNSky" <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>


> Ok, maybe some of you can clear this up.
> The President keeps saying that we can keep our insurance plans if we
> want to and are satisfied with it.
> To me, that is just a weird thing to say...
> We pay over $600/month for medical insurance-our portion of the
> premium-his employers pays the other half.
> Of course, we pay taxes like everyone else.
>
> So here is my question...
> We could sure use that 600 bucks elsewhere-maybe even a medical savings
> account, so if the government will provide, I would certainly drop the
> plan we have for a less expensive or free one, after all, I am a
> taxpayer who is paying for that plan, too.
>
> Why *should* I keep my BCBS plan when it is outrageously expensive?
> If I ditch my plan, and others do the same, it won't take long until
> private insurance will be a thing of the past, and we will either
> overwhelm Obamacare or bankrupt the government.
>
> What am I missing here?
> Why would anyone keep their insurance if there is a free program that
> will insure me?

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I heard about that yesterday and had a serious belly laugh over that one.

Wonder how many seniors called to cancel their membership in AARP over that 
one?
 

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From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
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Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 2:38 AM


Ya mean, kinda like how he said the AARP was behind his plan and now AARP is 
saying they haven't said any such thing???

Lynda
The press corp is fact-adverse but very fable friendly.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie" <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>


That is the elementary point, Watson !!!

He says from one side of his mouth he isn't trying to destroy the current 
system............
but the reality is what you point out............... 

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Definitelypost 2003.
 
They didn't say anything over the telephone.  They don't even give pateint 
condition over phone.
 
Actually, I don't really think many are following HIPPA.  Everytime I've been 
in the ER, or family has been in the hospital etc,,,,,,,,, all of the staff, 
doctors, nurses, techs have kept immediate family informed, but only in 
person.
 
My daughter almost died about 11 months after my son died.  She was mostly 
unconscious for the first 24 hrs, and in and out off it for the next week.  
The ER staff needed a lot of medical history from me, and kept me constantly 
informed of the emergency diagnostic tests they were performing and the 
results as they came in.  It took 4 days to diagnose.  They even requested 
that a family member be at her side 24/7.
 
I can tell you after losing a son, if they had been following HIPPA and not 
telling me the status of my daughter there would have been serious problems.  
I probably would have been arrested.  Actually in Miami with all the latins, 
I can easily imagine there would be a serious civil unrest problem if they 
refused to inform family members of what is going on.  Riot would be an 
understatement !
 
Even out here, same thing.  I take parents to docs/hospital.... all staff has 
kept me 100% informed.  
 
If HIPPA prevents that, HIPPA should be tossed out as another dumb piece of 
legislation.
 

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From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
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Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 2:37 AM


If it was after 2003, they shouldn't have told you anything.  Total 
violation of HIPAA.

Lynda
The press corp is fact-adverse but very fable friendly.

----- Original Message ----- 
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My son was dying due to massive trauma a few years back due to masssive 
trauama. We all had access to all medical info (immediately 3 family) the 
whole time, and actually they updated us every 3 hours or more often as 
needed round the clock for 3 weeks.

However, by day 3, I was approached by docs and probably a hosp lawyer, and 
made the proxy. Son was still conscious at this point, but not legally in a 
position to make decisions. I used to work open heart and trama every other 
weekend. I knew what was going on.

I don't know what is in the HIPPA, but it must have been totally ignored in 
the trauma center.

yes, though, when you go in hospital, I have noticed immediatleyl you get 
offered the DNR stuff.


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Leslie wrote:
> Have you received your White House Spam today?

Yeah, it is called the News.

<eg>

I read an article about these town hall meetings not really being the
forum they were billed to be, at least when the President is there.  He
outspoke the public 9 to 1 in word count.
<snip>
  The next
> thing I know I was getting spam from his campaign.

He is still campaigning.  The problem is that people are getting
frustrated and disappointed, something we knew had to happen because he
had made too many vague promises.  You can't be all things to all
people.  I hear his approval rating is below 50% now.


>
> He reminds me of my old boss............ who couldn't understand for
> the life him that if he sold his services/products for less than cost
> that he couldn't even break-even, more less make a profit............
> and the scary thing is he had a 4 year degree in finance..........
> from one of the esteemed schools.

Sounds like a dealership I know, where they less for less, but it is all
okay because "we will make it up in volume".  Say what?

Off the subject, but did anyone else think it odd last week that the MSM
had as their headline story that Russian subs were patrolling off the
East Coast?  My suspicion instantly went up, because the subs are always
there, just as we always sit off their coast.  My question was 'why are
they reporting this, and why now?'  I did not have to wait long for the
answer.  What do you want to bet that it has to do with a missing
Russian cargo ship, a ship full of mysteries and Finnish trees.
Hmmmm...these stories should wake you up.  I hope everyone is paying
attention and following this.  Ask yourself why hijackers would get on
and then get off a ship?  Hijacked on July 24...Ship last heard from on
July 30...Russian subs in war games off the East Coast on Aug 4?


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