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[bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

You have such a gift for putting thoughts to paper, Sage.  I realize people 
are adaptable , I think Darwin (with Alfred R. Wallace) was one of history's 
great thinkers; but when people become hungry, hot , and dirty, they are 
going to be doing some hollering as they learn to adapt.   :-)

I didn't vote for Obama, but most of my friends did, and they generally have 
'hope' with him, like you describe.

you wrote :   "It's the adventure, the not-knowing that sometimes make life 
exciting. Like hiking and wondering what is around the bend."

That is the way I looked at life when I was younger.  And there was plenty of 
excitement (as an aside -- sometimes excitement is not necessarily a good 
thing --  ;-)   )  I'm trying to become like that again.  I need to quit 
listening to all of the 'experts'; none of them know much more about what 
will happen in the future than you or me.  We are all just guessing.  
But, I have other people in my life to concern myself with now.....

I do worry too much about too many things of which I have little control.  My 
shrink says I have several anxiety disorders.  I'm not fearful of anyone or 
anything; it isn't fear.   Actually, I've always been somewhat of a risk 
taker.   it is just anxiety that builds into agitation.  I've tried half the 
pharma in the DSM-IV, it seems.  Anyway, my point is that you are correct 
that worrying is unhealthy.

I have never defined myself, in public, by material things.  That doesn't 
mean that I am not bitter at myself with my scorecard dropping so 
significantly at this stage in my life.  But , you are right, it's just a 
void; just a score.  I never intended to spend it all, anyway.  Now, I will 
have to, but I won't go hungry.

I might borrow youm story about no-one being worth " banging my head on a 
tree"  :-) .  That is a good line.

Thanks again, Sage ; (And I will work on "hope") ....................


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--- On Wed, 2/4/09, Sage Austin | Eureka! Design <eureka AT hctc.net> wrote:


> Thanks Bob. You know I'm not judging you, I see you as
> one looking at all sides of things trying to engage us all
> in thinking, which is very good. Bev does this too. We all
> want comfort in this world, but when it comes down to it I
> think most will adapt, and learn from it. I've been
> through some very bad personal times in my life, but
> I've never let it define me, never let myself slip into
> victim mentality. A few will fall into this mire, but I
> believe most will buck up and get on with life.
> 
> I know a lot of people on this list did note vote for
> Obama, and feel that hope is not substance for politics, but
> it certainly carried me through a lot, and I believe it will
> carry people through future hard times. I think of teen
> suicides and of these recent men who are killing their
> entire families and then themselves because of the
> economy--it always comes down to them feeling things are
> hopeless. Or in the case of the latter also defining
> themselves by their money and pride.
> 
> I think about all the wonderful times in wonderful places
> with wonderful people that have come my way after hard
> times. It's the adventure, the not-knowing that
> sometimes make life exciting. Like hiking and wondering what
> is around the bend. One thing life has taught me is 99% of
> the time nothing is ever as bad as you think it will be.
> Even when it is, sometimes the change brings something more
> wonderful that was hiding behind that thing, just waiting
> for a void to fill.
> 
> The worst thing about worry is it can do your health in.
> Potentially it could kill you before the feared hordes
> descend on your homestead. When I was very young at the
> university, I used to worry my boyfriend at the time would
> fall in love with someone else. Jealousy consumed my
> thoughts. One day, on a break, I walked to a store and was
> so consumed I did not see the large tree limb at head height
> over the sidewalk. I woke up in the university hospital with
> a concussion. The boyfriend was not worth keeping, as it
> turned out, but I learned any bad situation wasn't worth
> banging my head on a tree. I gave up jealousy then and
> there, and attracted more trustworthy people in my life as a
> result. Hope just feels a lot better than worry.
> 
> --Sage
> 
> bobf wrote:
> > Sage , 'a very eloquent and thoughtful post.  You
> do know when I refernce you all as being 'hard' or
> 'tough', it is a compliment.  I think what the women
> on this list do, themselves , is amazing.  But, it makes me
> smile when someone says something like they compared the
> upkeep of their beau to the upkeep of a horse   :-)
> > 
> > For whatever reason, aside from my poor writing
> skills, some people have an image of me that isn't close
> to reality.  But, that is okay; kindness always wins out in
> the end.
> > 
> > When you say "most women" are like you, I
> don't agree, though.  Most women , as well as most men,
> just want their comfortable place in the material world --
> at least that is my present jaded observation.  That
> isn't to say that makes anyone good or bad, it is just
> an observation.  
> > I wish more of you kept blogs.  I read your's and
> Roxanne's, regularly.
> > 
> > I am not as optimistic about people working together
> as you seem to be, but I hope you are right.  I hope even
> the least ominous scenario that I am concerned about, never
> comes to pass.  
> > Anyway, thanks for helping me back to the right side
> of the path, sage.........bob
> > 
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> > --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Sage Austin | Eureka! Design
> <eureka AT hctc.net> wrote:
> > 
> >   
> >> Bob, you often talk about all of us tough, hard
> homesteading ladies. I     
> > think most women possess this spirit whether they know
> it yet or not.   
> >> But I think our hardness does not come from guns,
> it comes
> >>     
> > from perseverance and determination as much as it does
> compassion, humility,  and love.
> >   
> >> --Sage
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