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Re: [Homestead] oil was:Political

From: Don Bowen <don.bowen AT earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [Homestead] oil was:Political
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:00:41 -0800

At 11/13/2006, you wrote:

Check this out, Don, they are talking about the various
concerns and methods for utilizing this untapped resource.
http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/v35_2_02/methane.shtml

Some estimates put the total amount of worldwide methane hydrates at twice the total of all other hydrocarbon sources. US deposits could be over 200 times our existing natural gas resources. Japan hopes to be producing methane from sea bed deposits by 2015. Extracting the methane is problematic as released gas is many times better a green house gas than CO2. It needs to be studied in any case as global warming will release methane from those sources.

One project being explored by Russia is to pump spent nuclear wastes under the permafrost to melt and release the gases.

Don Bowen Awl Knotted Up KI6DIU
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http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html

I am omnivagant.

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At 11/13/2006, you wrote:

The world uses 82 million barrels of oil a day ...
>> even IF that well could be successfully pumped, and IF it yielded
>> the very maximum estimate, and IF you could get it from the deep
>> well site to on shore pipelines ... all those if's ..... that well
>> couldn't supply the world oil but for six months.

James, Jack 2 is just one well.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0908/p03s02-usec.html

7000 feet below the sea surface then another 28,000 feet. This is expensive oil. And it is in the middle of a hurricane spawing ground.

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Don Bowen wrote:

Some estimates put the total amount of worldwide methane hydrates at
twice the total of all other hydrocarbon sources. US deposits could
be over 200 times our existing natural gas resources. Japan hopes to
be producing methane from sea bed deposits by 2015.

The largest deep water hydrate reserve is probably located between
Tiawan and Japan.

Extracting the methane is

problematic as released gas is many times better a green house gas
than CO2. It needs to be studied in any case as global warming will
release methane from those sources.

Problematic, but not impossible. We have the technology already, it is
just a matter of adapting it for the purpose.

One project being explored by Russia is to pump spent nuclear wastes
under the permafrost to melt and release the gases.

Yup, I think that would do it as you would heating up the hydrates to
release the methane. Now, IMO, that's not a environmentally responsible
method, not because they would be pumping nuclear waste, but because
they are messing with the unstable surface hydrates. It would seem to
me that that method would release more greenhouse gases into the
atmosphere than harvesting hydrates from the deep ocean.

Bev

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BevanRon of EarthNSky Farm NW Georgia USDA Zone 7
34.498N 85.076W Bev is Earth, Ron is Sky

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