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- From: Brendan Love <brendan.love AT mac.com>
- To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: Ditch the guns II
- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:11:39 -0400
Just a thought: how long would the Local 506 (for example) stay in business if they were not subsidizing the entertainment through alcohol sales? Is there anyone unfamiliar with the ruinous effects of alcohol worldwide? I think that in the main scheme of things, I am willing to deal with the fact that our local drive-in is also a gun shop.
On Sep 21, 2004, at 9:16 AM, James Hepler wrote:
Sounds like blackmail to me. Forgive me, but I think
a person should run the business of his choice as long
as he isn't breaking laws. All the statistics in the
world don't change the fact that he has a right to run
that busines without the community trying to take food
out of his mouth.
I only wish that those of you so bold as to make these
requests via the paper would take the time to talk to
the man about it in person. It's his life you're
trying to mess with.
Hep
--- Brian Russell <brussell AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
<http://indyweek.com/durham/current/backtalk.html>
Bellow is the *second* letter to the editor
published in the Indy last
wed.
From a DURHAM resident.
To me the *main* point of the two letters in the
Indy is to let anyone
who is donating money and time to the 'Save the
Starlite' cause that
their money &/or time MIGHT be used to support a
business that sells
guns.
SO....
A) If you're for gun use or don't care either way
then there is no
problem for you. Donate away.
B) If you are against the effects of guns and the
violence people cause
with them then you may not want to give to the 'Save
the Starlite'
cause.
In other words...TRANSPARENCY.
"When people give time and money to such a fine
cause, they become
partners in the cause's future."
//////////////////////
Ditch the guns II
I'm saddened to hear that the Starlite Drive-In
theatre burned down and
I wish it a speedy reconstruction ("Scan," Sept. 8).
That being said, I
hope that Bob Grove will reconsider one of his
business practices--the
selling of handguns. I'm not sure how many community
members who are
helping to get the Starlite back on its feet are
even aware that it
sells handguns; and, if they are aware of that fact,
whether or not
they are aware of the drastic damage handguns do to
our community.
Consider these statistics from the Brady Center to
Prevent Gun Violence
(www.bradycenter.org):
In 1998, 30,708 people in the United States died
from firearm-related
deaths: 12,102 (39%) of those were murdered; 17,424
(57%) were
suicides; 866 (3%) were accidents; and in 316 (1%)
the intent was
unknown.
In 1998, eight out of 10 of those murdered with
firearms were murdered
with handguns.
In 1999, there were only 134 justifiable handgun
homicides by private
citizens in the United States.
In 1998, firearm homicide was the leading cause of
death for black
males ages 15-34.
In 1998, more than 10 children and teenagers, ages
19 and under, were
killed with guns everyday.
In 1998, 77 percent of murdered juveniles age 13-19
were killed with a
firearm.
From 1993 through 1997, an average of 1,409
children and teenagers took
their own lives with guns each year.
In 1998 alone, licensed firearms dealers sold an
estimated 4.4 million
guns, 1.7 million of which were handguns.
More information on the number of handgun-related
deaths in our
country, and ways that we can stop the violence, can
be accessed from
Stop Handgun Violence (www.stophandgunviolence.org),
Stop the NRA
(www.stopthenra.com), and North Carolinians against
Gun Violence
(www.ncgv.org).
Perhaps, after the Starlite is rebuilt with the help
of the community,
Mr. Grove will repay the community by getting rid of
the guns once and
for all.
Michael Taeckens
Durham
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RE: Ditch the guns II
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RE: Ditch the guns II,
Todd Morman, 09/22/2004
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Re: Ditch the guns II,
Bo Williams, 09/23/2004
- RE: Ditch the guns II, Todd Morman, 09/23/2004
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Re: Ditch the guns II,
Bo Williams, 09/23/2004
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Re: Ditch the guns II,
James Hepler, 09/22/2004
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Re: Ditch the guns II,
Bo Williams, 09/22/2004
- RE: Ditch the guns II, Todd Morman, 09/22/2004
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Re: Ditch the guns II,
Ruby Sinreich, 09/22/2004
- Re: Ditch the guns II, James Hepler, 09/22/2004
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Re: Ditch the guns II,
Bo Williams, 09/22/2004
- RE: Ditch the guns II, Todd Morman, 09/22/2004
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Re: Ditch the guns II,
James Hepler, 09/21/2004
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Re: Ditch the guns II,
Brendan Love, 09/21/2004
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- Re: Ditch the guns II, Jason M. Sullivan, 09/21/2004
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- Re: Ditch the guns II, Duncan Murrell, 09/21/2004
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Re: Ditch the guns II,
Brendan Love, 09/21/2004
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RE: Ditch the guns II,
Todd Morman, 09/22/2004
- Re: Ditch the guns II, My friend Phil said,, 09/22/2004
- Re: Ditch The Guns II, Nathaniel Florin, 09/22/2004
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Re: Ditch The Guns II,
Perv, the Nerve Prattmeyer ©, 09/22/2004
- Re: Ditch The Guns II, jenn, 09/23/2004
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