permaculture

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On 1/1/2013 12:05 PM, Cory Brennan wrote:
> Yes, some very good ideas, but I deal with urban systems which must
> be retrofitted, not torn down and rebuilt (which would be way

Most of my suggestions do not require tearing down anything, only 
infill, retrofit, redesign and remodel. With steam generated electric 
power you have the same thing as microhydro only you are using rotors 
turned by wood and water rather than gravity and water, using locally 
sourced materials. If somehow you could put together community or 
neighborhood toilets or even sewage lines connecting toilets in homes 
coupled with biogas generation equipment you would have a source of fuel 
for cooking, DHW production and for the electric generator which could 
driven by any 4 cycle engine retrofitted with natural gas carburetion 
(there is a company in West Virginia that sells all of these 
components). Neighborhood biogas generation with community toilets (less 
flush water) would likely be a properly scaled system
that would be the easiest to manage.

WATER:

We haven't even begun to discuss water catchment, purification, 
conservation and recycling. Systems dealing with these issues are some 
of the e3asiest to construct and put in place for reliable operation.

We need more ideas about water use and recycling.

> wasteful, and just lazy design). This is a problem that I feel needs
> to be confronted with the group genius at work, really digging in and
> looking for the best solutions to the existing structure - not some
> pie in the sky scenario. We are here, we did do what we did, and now
> we are functioning via the use of fossil fuels on massive scales.
> What is the design solution?

Lets work on it!