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[Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>]

This is great for a homesteader on 10 acres, but I'm looking for something 
that works on a 1/4 acre lot that already has a bunch of stuff on it like 
food forests, house and garage (for co-housing), compost, vermicompost, rain 
catchment, etc. On a lot that size, you need most or all  of the coppiced 
wood for fertility if you don't want to import it. You gotta have something 
that goes on the roof, like PV, or something really small. 

This is a design problem that is not handled or solved that I know of. If 
everyone on the planet moved to 20 acre homesteads, or 5 acres or even 1 acre 
and grew wood for fuel, it wouldn't be the highest use for trees or wood on 
this planet, and therefore not sustainable. It's all well and good to talk 
about how others aren't really applying permaculture, but how many of us are 
fully off grid and using fully renewable (over the long term) energy sources 
that could work anywhere on the planet - particularly in US suburbs?  What 
would happen if we as a group put our collective genius to the task of 
solving this one? 
 
Koreen Brennan

www.growpermaculture.com
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On 1/1/2013 1:57 AM, Cory Brennan wrote:
> I hear you - these are great, as long as you have a stream and enough
> altitude change to have meaningful flow/speed.
>
> How about in a typical suburban neighborhood with no streams? Fuel
> cell? Geothermal? Co-generation? Some kind of solar or wind I haven't
> heard of yet? Something that is affordable for most people? And you
> don't have to rip up the foundation of your house to do it?

Co-generation:

Have a woodlot, coppiced or cut trees for fuel feeding a wood-fired 
boiler/DHW generator/bake oven providing steam to a steam engine running 
a generator charging batteries during hours solar panels or wind turbine 
isn't charging them. Use 12/24 VDC current for lights or appliances or a 
phase converter to supply 120VAC to appliances such as well pump, 
refrigeration, aquaculture/hyrdoponics/aquaponics/irrigation systems. 
Very high efficiency, high heat, forced air fed wood burners can be 
constructed that would quickly generate steam while providing DHW for 
storage in an insulated tank. Combine PV panels, with wind turbines with 
steam engine powered electrical generator for a whole systems approach 
to of the grid power.

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From a friend, along the lines of our discussion.

This article shows how the lack of the People Care ethic corrupts the 
financial system that’s currently imposed upon us. 
Marie
NEW REPORT, "FIX THE DEBT" CEO PENSIONS - For Release 11/27/2012
Lacy MacAuley, Institute for Policy Studies, (202) 445-4692, lacy@ips-dc.org 
** Interviews with report co-authors available **
CEOs Pushing Social Security Cuts are Sitting on Massive Retirement Funds 
While Underfunding Worker Pensions 
“Fix the Debt” CEOs hold an average of $9 million each to put toward 
retirement
 
Washington DC — A new report by the Institute for Policy Studies examines 
CEOs of public companies who have endorsed the “Fix the Debt” campaign. 
The report, “Pension Deficit Disorder: The Massive CEO Retirement Funds and 
Underfunded Worker Pensions at Firms Pushing Social Security Cuts,” finds 
that these CEOs, while calling for ordinary Americans to take cuts in Social 
Security and Medicare, are sitting on an average of $9 million each in 
retirement funds. Most are also running large deficits in their own 
employees’ pension funds.
 
“These CEOs paint a stark picture of hypocrisy,” said Scott Klinger, a 
report co-author. “They are feathering their own retirement nests while 
trying to deny ordinary Americans — including their own employees — their 
hard-earned nest eggs. They’re simply taking advantage of the so-called 
‘fiscal cliff’ to push the same old agenda of more corporate tax breaks 
while shifting costs onto the poor and elderly.”
 
The report focuses on the CEOs of major U.S. corporations who have endorsed 
the “Fix the Debt” campaign, which is currently conducting a nationwide 
advertising blitz to promote their solutions for the country’s fiscal ills. 
   
 
Key findings:Â 
 
• The 71 Fix the Debt CEOs who lead publicly held companies have amassed an 
average of $9 million in their company retirement funds. A dozen have more 
than $20 million in their accounts. If each of them converted their assets to 
an annuity when they turned 65, they would receive a monthly check for at 
least $110,000 for life. 
 
• The Fix the Debt CEO with the largest pension fund is Honeywell’s David 
Cote, a long-time advocate of Social Security cuts. His $78 million nest egg 
is enough to provide a $428,000 check every month after he turns 65. 
 
• Forty-one of the 71 companies offer employee pension funds. Of these, 
only two have sufficient assets in their funds to meet expected obligations. 
The rest have combined deficits of $103 billion, or about $2.5 billion on 
average. General Electric has the largest deficit in its worker pension fund, 
with $22 billion. 
 
“The Fix the Debt CEOs are trying to persuade policymakers and the public 
that cuts to Social Security and Medicare are necessary to avoid economic 
ruin,” said report co-author Sarah Anderson. “A better way to strengthen 
our economy would be to raise revenues through fair taxation of the wealthy 
and Wall Street, eliminating subsidies for polluters, and cutting military 
spending.” 
 
To receive a hard copy of the report, contact Lacy MacAuley, (202) 445-4692 
main, (202) 234-9382 second, lacy@ips-dc.org.
 
On November 27, the report will be available 
here:http://www.ips-dc.org/reports/pension-deficit-disorder/Â 
 
This is the second Institute for Policy Studies report on the “Fix the 
Debt” campaign. The first report revealed that Fix the Debt companies would 
stand to gain as much as $134 billion in windfalls from one of their main tax 
proposals — a permanent exemption of their foreign earnings from U.S. 
federal income taxes. Â 
 
# # # 

Institute for Policy Studies(www.ips-dc.org) is a community of public 
scholars and organizers linking peace, justice, and the environment in the 
United States and globally. We work with social movements to promote true 
democracy and challenge concentrated wealth, corporate influence, and 
military power.
 
 



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On 1/1/2013 1:57 AM, Cory Brennan wrote:
> I hear you - these are great, as long as you have a stream and enough
> altitude change to have meaningful flow/speed.
>
> How about in a typical suburban neighborhood with no streams? Fuel
> cell? Geothermal? Co-generation? Some kind of solar or wind

Bergey windmills are very affordable, competitive with photovoltaic
panels, which have come down in price. These wind turbines can be
installed most anywhere with little effort and small footprint.

> I haven't
> heard of yet? Something that is affordable for most people? And you
> don't have to rip up the foundation of your house to do it?

Co-generation:

Have a woodlot, coppiced or cut trees for fuel feeding a wood-fired
boiler/DHW generator/bake oven providing steam to a steam engine running
a generator charging batteries during hours solar panels or wind
turbines aren't charging them. Use 12/24 VDC current for lights or
appliances or a phase converter to supply 120 VAC to appliances such as
well pump, refrigeration, aquaculture/hyrdoponics/aquaponics/irrigation
systems. Very high efficiency, high heat, forced air fed wood burners
can be constructed that would quickly generate steam while providing DHW
for storage in an insulated tank. Stainless DHW tanks are available
for long service life; you can add supplemental waterprooof, hard
setting, non toxic spray foam insulation to them for almost zero heat
loss; you can do the same with refrigeration units to gain operating
efficiency.

Solar closets can be constructed that store heat in water-filled barrels
housed in superinsulated rooms. A solar thermal panel with backflow
prevention is used to generate high temperature heat that
is channeled to the barrels. During off hours the stored heat is
circulated throughout the building's living quarters, which should have
thermal mass for additional heat recycling (and cooling during warm
months).

Combine PV panels, with wind turbines with steam engine powered
electrical generator for a whole systems approach to off grid power
generation. Mount the PV panels on frames attached to the bases of the
wind charger towers. Both systems use the same electrical cabling to
carry current to the battery bank and phase converter.

Available now are high efficiency phase converters and deep cycle
storage batteries such as lead-acid, gel cell/glass mat, lithium ion and
the latest technology, lithium phosphate.

First and foremost, reduce electrical energy needs.
Design buildings with adequate glazing and skylights that reduce or
eliminate the need for electrical lighting during daylight hours. Use
attached greenhouses for 1) light 2) space heat 3) growing food crops
4) clean air and provide oxygen (especially useful when wood burners are
used for backup space heat).