permaculture

[jamesdavid Sneed <harvestcircle@hotmail.com>]

Do any of you goatherds have any experience on the effect of comfrey on 
goats, especially pregnant or nursing mamas? How about on sheep?
Also, does anyone have the list of the five or so common toxic plants for 
goats? I remember foxglove, false hellebore, and monkshood, but can't 
remember the rest.

> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 06:40:13 -0700
> From: slowfoodguy@yahoo.com
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] goat worming plants?
> 
> Thank you Douglas, Scott, Dylan, Lisa, and Steve!  Always appreciate advice 
> from people with solid hands-on experience.  Lespedeza was mentioned during 
> the goat exchange as a possibility, and my wife and Steve both mentioned 
> wormwood.  Sounds like Russian/Autumn olive is more trouble than it's 
> worth, as kudzu would be, even if they're just doing their job!
>  
> I think I'll try the Siberian pea shrub, maybe in a semi-shade location 
> since it's so bloody hot down here, and I was already considering planting 
> black walnuts in the "back 40" between a mature pecan and hackberry - see 
> if I can get a Hemenway-style, juglone-neutralizing walnut guild going.  
> For blacks it takes two to fruit; I assume I could plant them in the same 
> hole to save space?  Anyone done this?
>  
> Possible chance of buying the 1/4 acre and house next door to us for under 
> $5000!  That would double our garden and give us the option of housing a 
> wwoofer for the season starting 2011.  Under 10k for 2 houses and a half 
> acre in town.  There will always be options for the flexible!
>  
> Thanks again, guys.
> Tripp out.
> 
> 
> 
> The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
> -Chinese proverb
>  
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/16/10, Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] goat worming plants?
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 3:33 AM
> 
> 
> You might look into the various lespedezas native and exotic, some have 
> been used as commercial forage crops.
> 
> I've read that birdsfoot trefoil helps sheep with parasites due to the 
> tannin content.
> 
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
> 
> 
> Tripp Tibbetts wrote:
> > We just got a new Kiko nanny goat this morning, freshly wormed from her 
> > previous owner, and I'm wondering what I can plant in the orchard to help 
> > with worms in the future, as Ivermectin isn't exactly part of my typical 
> > grocery list.  At Darren Doherty's Keyline class in Aromas, CA, back in 
> > October someone mentioned using diatomaceous earth, at which point I 
> > caught Darren's eye and we were both shaking our heads.  Wha?  But surely 
> > there are plants that can help in this regard.  Would love to hear about 
> > them.
> >  
> > Also, we're in a hot muggy zone 8 climate in the southeastern US and I'm 
> > looking for diversity in the high-protein fodder department.  Does anyone 
> > have experience with Siberian pea shrub down here?  What about mimosa?  
> > Not a lot of foliage, so not sure it's worth planting, but grows readily 
> > here.  What else?  Eleagnus?  Russian olive does almost too well around 
> > here.  Do goats dig it?
> >  
> > Cheers,
> > Tripp
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