permaculture

[jamesdavid Sneed <harvestcircle@hotmail.com>]

Some animals can be "planted" responsibly as long as one takes care that 
their behaviors don't impact an area deleteriously. While feral pigs can be a 
big problem in some areas, I've also seen them put on a moderate sized island 
from which they could not swim away. However, the steward has to be committed 
to harvesting enough of them that they won'st damage their own resource base 
or adjoining areas. I've also seen the same donw with goats, soay sheep, wild 
turkeys, and old english game chickens. 
Again, it is a matter of commitment to fulfill the details of responsible 
stewardship.

> From: woodsjay@cox.net
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 07:49:30 -0500
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] animals in food systems
> 
> On Tuesday, May 18, 2010 05:06:25 am Les Mulder wrote:
> > Rain wrote:
> > > I'm not big on animals in permaculture systems <snip>
> > 
> > Hello Rain,
> > 
> > Would it be possible for you to elucidate on your statement about
> > animals in permaculture systems? I'd really like to understand the
> > reasoning behind it, as it does seem to contradict a lot of the
> > permaculture teaching I've been exposed to to date (where animals
> > are deemed to be integral to permaculture, especially in food
> > forests) and I'm always interested in new ideas...
> 
> I'm not Rain but keep in mind that there is more than one kind of us 
> Permaculturists. For example, I have concentrated on raising my trees 
> from seedlings recovered from under the parent tree (or some nearby tree 
> tree where the fruit was carried for consumption, etc.). That said, the 
> parent trees that are used have been selected for the quality of the 
> fruit, yield, ripening period, and byproducts such as flowers, honey, 
> quality of offspring, and timber. All the knowledge about the life cycle 
> that can be gleaned will probably turn out to be useful.
> 
> The driving force (beside that I like communing with the trees) is 
> minimal labor for maintenance and expansion of the food forest. 
> 
> For me the same applies to livestock. As an example, I would choose wild 
> turkeys over domestic turkeys. This sticks me with optimizing their 
> environment and figuring out how to hunt them but I am not needed for 
> their usual life cycle. A population of 1/acre can be maintained. 
> > 
> > Thanks & regards,
> > 
> > Les
> > 
> > 
> >  
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