permaculture

[Tripp Tibbetts <slowfoodguy@yahoo.com>]

We just got a new Kiko nanny goat this morning, freshly wormed from her 
previous owner, and I'm wondering what I can plant in the orchard to help 
with worms in the future, as Ivermectin isn't exactly part of my typical 
grocery list.  At Darren Doherty's Keyline class in Aromas, CA, back in 
October someone mentioned using diatomaceous earth, at which point I caught 
Darren's eye and we were both shaking our heads.  Wha?  But surely there are 
plants that can help in this regard.  Would love to hear about them.
 
Also, we're in a hot muggy zone 8 climate in the southeastern US and I'm 
looking for diversity in the high-protein fodder department.  Does anyone 
have experience with Siberian pea shrub down here?  What about mimosa?  Not a 
lot of foliage, so not sure it's worth planting, but grows readily here.  
What else?  Eleagnus?  Russian olive does almost too well around here.  Do 
goats dig it?
 
Cheers,
Tripp



The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
-Chinese proverb
 



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Toby Hemenway wrote:

> I often try out ideas here before moving on to larger forums, so I do
> appreciate constructive feedback. When I get too much knee-jerk
> projection of people's own issues onto me, I tend to post much less.
> I've been pretty inactive here for a while, and that's part of why. I
> have developed a pretty thick skin and am learning, usually, not to
> get triggered by the real idiots here--and I'll never be offended by
> Lawrence, I know him too well--but if I run into too many people who
> will not think critically and won't read for meaning, I'm outta here.
> Life is too short.

My interest in the management aspects of this list can be summed up in a
few words: a hands-off approach and encourage discussion as much as
possible; refinement comes about through dialog in a co-evolving
community of like-minded people serious about the study and practice of
permaculture, how they have integrated it into their lifestyles and how
it works for them. They are here to learn how to make it work better and
in more ways and how to share it with others.

Personally, I like the diversity of discussion and of viewpoints I find
here; that's a rare thing and is to be encouraged. Ever since I was 3'
tall I have been interested in the concept of survival, especially
survival in the wilderness and as a country dweller. I have always been
fascinated with this and it is probably what has driven me to my current
rural lifestyle; the back-to-the-land movement of the 50's through the
80's made a permanent convert out of me. My life pretty much revolves
around homesteading, home and market food production and permaculture.
I can't begin to express how important I think these things are.
The beauty of it is that homesteading, home and market food production
and permaculture can be practiced equally well in urban, suburban, rural
and wilderness settings. What is going on now globally is a continuation
of permacultural practices and trends started in the fifties, through a
golden cultural renaissance in the 60's and 70's and a revival and
sustenance of interest thereafter on through the present.

I have got to say, this forum continues to amaze me.

...:LL