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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..
- From: "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net>
- To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..
- Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:46:19 -0700 (PDT)
Aloha,
>> If I want to know more personally those who grow my food, I am
>> unlikely to want them to be certified by some national organization
>> run by people perhaps neither of us have seen or met, let
>> alone gotten to know.
>
> Yet national certification supports the development of a growing
> organic food market in this country. The NASAA (National Association
> Sustainable Agriculture Australia), Biofarm (a biodynamic certifier)
> and OHGA (Organic Herb Growers Australia, which also certifies
> vegetables and fruit) logos provide quality assurance to buyers.
The key for me is my first sentence - "...know more personally..."
I won't likely be able to drop by the farm of most who are selling through
centralized certification, unless they just happen to farm nearby...and if
they do, I can know them and what they're doing and the certification is
irrelevant.
I have no idea what any of those big organizational certifications
*really* mean in practice. I do know that the bigger they get the more
they seem to become a tool of agribusiness, which is interested in
profiting from the organic food fad but not really intereseted in truly
sustainable agriculture.
It's a cultural difference - arbitrary certification authority vs. knowing
your local farmers. I prefer the latter and I think it would be a
healthier and more sustainable food culture overall.
John Schinnerer, MA
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Re: [permaculture] Cults & Fetishes (was: Hierarchies and certification..)
, (continued)
- Re: [permaculture] Cults & Fetishes (was: Hierarchies and certification..), Loren Davidson, 07/08/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
John Schinnerer, 07/07/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
Toby Hemenway, 07/08/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
Kirby Fry, 07/08/2003
- [permaculture] internal aspects, John Schinnerer, 07/08/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
Kirby Fry, 07/08/2003
- Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification.., John Schinnerer, 07/08/2003
- Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification.., Rick Valley, 07/09/2003
- [permaculture] Awareness and effects, John Schinnerer, 07/08/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
Kirby Fry, 07/08/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
Russ Grayson, 07/08/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
John Schinnerer, 07/09/2003
- Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification.., Russ Grayson, 07/09/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
georg parlow, 07/10/2003
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[permaculture] absolute basics,
Lance Bermudez, 07/14/2003
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Re: [permaculture] absolute basics,
Scott Vlaun, 07/14/2003
- Re: [permaculture] absolute basics, John Schinnerer, 07/14/2003
- Re: [permaculture] absolute basics, Scott Vlaun, 07/14/2003
- Re: [permaculture] absolute basics THANKS, Lance Bermudez, 07/17/2003
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Re: [permaculture] absolute basics,
Scott Vlaun, 07/14/2003
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[permaculture] absolute basics,
Lance Bermudez, 07/14/2003
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RE: [permaculture] absolute basics,
Sharon Gordon, 07/14/2003
- Re: [permaculture] absolute basics, georg parlow, 07/15/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
John Schinnerer, 07/09/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Hierarchies and certification..,
Toby Hemenway, 07/08/2003
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