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- Subject: Re: [Homestead] Fall Garden
- Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:08:11 -0700 (PDT)
Oh no - the blight!
I was so totally blown away with the first garden, that I forgot to keep my
eyes on the dates for planting a fall garden. By the time I looked up what I
was supposed to plant next, it was too late. I now realize that what I need
to do is to have a completely separate garden area ready to go as the dates
overlap a bit. My planning error, in that I thought that when the seed
packates indicated date to maturity, that I would get one big picking, pull
out those plants, have a week or so off for a vacation if I wanted, and then
plant for the fall,,,,,,,, how wrong I was about that!
The temps here finally are starting to cool off. This whole year, we've had
only one decent rain, and that was a couple of days ago. For the first time,
for one day only, I didn't have to irrigate.
At the grocery the other day, the check out clerk gave me an idea on storing
potatoes. Comments from anyone on this idea would be appreciated.
1. The ground doesn't freez here, but air temps can and do go to low teens
for an hour or two before dawn.
2. The ground is dry sand.
3. Any snow that falls is gone (evaporates) between 8-11am.
He suggested a "poor mans cellar"............. 5 gallon buckets, put the lid
on, and bury the bucket 6" down under sand.
My first, thought however, was, do potatoes need fresh air for any reason
when stored? If not, it is easy and cheap to get used food grade buckets
here from the food processing plants (just rinse out the jalapeno smell....)
My summer garden is about done. The blight finally got the tomatoes. The
garlic is harvested. The potatoes are done, waiting to be dug, as are the
Jeruselem Artichokes and carrots. The animal's mangels are huge (just the
part I can see above ground)...I marvel at them. The winter squash that
escaped the woodchucks are waiting for the first frost. The pole beans limp
on, but I've got more than I need, so I'm not good about picking them. The
fall peas are buried in weeds and should be attended to. I'm still getting
good things (tomatoes, cucumbers, melons) from the greenhouse, and will
until November..
I have my small fall garden mostly planted. I have beets, parsnips and leeks
that have been growing all summer, carrots (most of which didn't
germinate...again), some storage onions, lettuce (just transplanted), and
cabbage (still have to transplant). I have the hoops up, and can cover them
when needed. The two rows are side-by-side, so I can devise some kind of
larger second cover over both of them. I'd like to keep everything in the
ground as long as possible. Eventually the ground will freeze, and I'll have
to get them out by then.
We went a whole week or so with no rain; today it's raining again. And cool;
the high was 70 degrees, but with the gloom and rain it feels cooler. I
guess the summer that never got here is over.
Lynn Wigglesworth
Tioga Co. PA
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Leslie wrote:
> From: Lynn Wigglesworth lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com
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> <<< I don't like the whole slant of this article:that a country
> "wins" or "loses" by how effective it is in forcing it's ideology on
> other countries. The socialist ideas in this country aren't a
> communist plot. They are coming from within and are a natural
> consequence of the corruption that is making the divide between rich
> and poor wider every year. >>>
>
> Do you think that Putin and his predecessors and allies haven't been
> plotting the final blow to America, by using the tactic of Collapse
> from Within? I thought the author made a great point ---- that any
> country who wanted to defeat us must have had to consider our
> considerable advanced war technology as being next to impossible to
> beat. Therefore, you would have to attack us in a non-conventional
> way, and do so with a long term plan in mind.
When I read y'all's comments, I remembered a list of Communist
objectives that I read a long time ago. I searched and found them on
Jeff Rense's site...for whatever that is worth. It is old stuff. The
original declaration is from 1963...I think that qualifies as long term
plan.
http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm
The Communist Takeover Of
America - 45 Declared Goals
From Greg Swank
12-4-2
You are about to read a list of 45 goals that found their way down the
halls of our great Capitol back in 1963. As you read this, 39 years
later, you should be shocked by the events that have played themselves
out. I first ran across this list 3 years ago but was unable to attain a
copy and it has bothered me ever since. Recently, Jeff Rense posted it
on his site and I would like to thank him for doing so. http://www.rense.com
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR.
OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an
ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently
published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of
alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous
consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies
as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States
would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist
affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of
Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free
elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States
has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is
rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its
own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world
can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these
two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American
institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for
socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get
control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or
organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments,
editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of
artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate
all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless,
awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to
promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship"
and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography
and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal,
natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social"
religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual
maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools
on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church
and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate,
old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation
between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish
aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching
of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the
"big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the
Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any
part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs,
mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation
of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social
agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which
no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a
means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and
easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative
influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding
of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate
aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest
groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic,
political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are
ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent
the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give
the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
Note by Webmaster: The Congressional Record back this far has not be
digitized and posted on the Internet.
It will probably be available at your nearest library that is a federal
repository. Call them and ask them. Your college library is probably a
repository. This is an excellent source of government records. Another
source are your Congress Critters. They should be more than happy to
help you in this matter. You will find the Ten Planks of the Communist
Manifesto interesting at this point.
Webmaster Forest Glen Durland found the document in the library.
Sources are listed below.
Microfilm: California State University at San Jose Clark Library,
Government Floor Phone (408)924-2770 Microfilm Call Number: J 11.R5
Congressional Record, Vol. 109 88th Congress, 1st Session Appendix Pages
A1-A2842 Jan. 9-May 7, 1963 Reel 12
1963- The Year That Changed America
By Greg Swank
12-4-2
Over the years, I have shared in debates and discussions regarding the
current state of affairs in the U.S., and the changing social climate of
this great nation. Since the "baby-boomer" generation, society and its
culture have become noticeably different than the way it was 50 years
ago. From the late 50's to the 70's a series of events took place
contributing to the way we are currently living. However, like anything
else, there has to be a starting point at which the wheels are put into
motion. Sometimes it can be a single event, such as war, but more often,
it is a series of events, some intentional, some planned, others
unpredictable. There is always a pivotal point when things begin to
change. I believe that time was 1963.
For my generation, some of the following will certainly stir old
memories. If you born later, this may serve as a brief history lesson
into the times your parents traveled through.
By 1963 television was the leading sources of entertainment. The public
enjoyed a different type of programming back then. Lessons on life could
be viewed weekly on "Leave it to Beaver" or "My Three Sons." There were
hero's back then that never drew blood, "The Lone Ranger" and "The
Adventures of Superman." Cartoon series evolved, such as, "The
Flintstones" and "The Jetsons" without messages of empowering the
children, using vulgarities or demeaning parental guidance. Family's
could spend a weekend evening watching "Ed Sullivan," "Bonanza" or
"Gunsmoke." For those who enjoyed thrill and suspense, we were blessed
with "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" and the "Twilight Zone." 'My Favorite
Martian," "Ozzie and Harriet," "Donna Reed" and "Sea Hunt" also kept
viewers entertained weekly.
Movie theaters were not multiplex units with 15 screens, rather, one
single, giant big screen with adequate sound and hard seats without
springs. "Tom Jones" had won the Academy award for best picture. "How
The West Was Won," "Cleopatra," "Lily of the Fields," "The Great
Escape," "The Birds," and "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" were all box
office hits.
By years end, "The Beatles" had played for the British Royal Family and
were laying the groundwork to conquer the U.S. the following year. Eric
Clapton began his journey to fame with Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Jim
McCarty and their band, "The Yardbirds." Out on the west coast the surf
was beginning to rock'n'roll with "The Beach Boys" and their first song
to reach the top ten list, "Surfin' U.S.A."
"Joys of Jell-O" recipes for quivering florescent foodstuff hit the
stores. U.S. Postal rates went up to five cents for the first ounce.
AT&T introduced touch-tone telephones. The Yankees played in the World
Series again; but lost to the Dodgers in four straight. The government
and NASA began the Apollo program.
This is just a brief snapshot of some things that were going on back in
1963. Remember?
While some of these events played an important role in the direction of
change that affect us today, many of them were lost to much greater,
more political events, that I believe put everything into motion.
On January 10, 1963, the House of Representative and later the Senate
began reviewing a document entitled "Communist Goals for Taking Over
America." It contained an agenda of 45 separate issues that, in
hindsight was quite shocking back then and equally shocking today. Here,
in part, are some key points listed in that document.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist
affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American
institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to
promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship"
and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography
and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal,
natural, healthy."
27. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual
maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools
on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church
and state."
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and
easy divorce.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
You can see the entire list on this web page -
http://www.truthtrek.net/politics/takeover.htm
Now, I am not saying that the U.S. is under some kind of Communist
control, but what I do find frightening, is of the 45 issues listed,
nearly all of them have come to pass. Remember this was in January 1963.
In 1963 the news media showed women burning their bras as the women's
liberation movement took off with the publishing of "The Feminine
Mystique" by Betty Friedan. Martin Luther King was jailed in April and
civil unrest was being brought to the forefront. On August 28th the
media brought us live coverage of the march on Washington and Dr. Kings
famous "I had a dream" speech. The Cuban missile crisis found its way in
to our homes and our nation was gearing up for conflict.
By September of 1963 we had lost some very influential people, Pope John
XXIII, Robert Frost, and country legend Patsy Cline, to name a few. In
the early hours of November 22nd we learned of the quiet passing of C.S.
Lewis and hours later we were brought to our knees when President John
F. Kennedy was assassinated and our nation mourned.
So you see, while long since forgotten, 1963 could very well have been,
one of the most important years since our founding fathers provided us
with the Constitution of the United States. Which brings me to one final
and extremely important decision that was made during this most
provocative year.
On June 17, 1963 the U.S. Supreme Court concluded that any Bible
reciting or prayer, in public schools, was deemed unconstitutional.
While American's have endured great prosperity over the past 40 years we
have also lost our moral compass and direction. In reviewing the
research, data supports 1963 as a focal point, demonstrating a downward
slope in our moral and social decline through 2001.
Certainly, one would have to agree that all of these events have had a
profound impact on the way our current social structure has been
changed. Personally, if I had to choose one specific event that has
demonstrated the demoralization of our country, it would have to be the
decision of the U.S Supreme Court in June of 1963.
But there is always "hope." As always, I welcome your comments and can
easily be reached. Thanks for the response to "Daddy, What's Fluoride?"
My email is: greg AT truthtrek.net
--
Sleep well tonight, for somewhere in the ocean's depths, MY son is
protecting your freedom on the USS Key West, currently deployed
somewhere in the Pacific and/or Indian Ocean. Go Navy!
EarthNSky Farm, NW Georgia, USA
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