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  • From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Where are the protesters?
  • Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:28:41 -0700 (PDT)

From: EarthNSky
<<< I thought this was interesting and makes me wonder how much of the
anti-war protest was political vs. philosophical. >>

Aren't one's views on politics and economics an extension of one's core
philosophy?
IE philosphical beliefs on politics and economics is expressed in the form of
political/government rules. 
 
In the below article, Nyquist, a global analyst type.... explains that
America has too many big guns for enemies of the principals of freedom and
free markets to attack directly, and how we've really been at war for a long
time.  Also, the term ObamaWars might be a little short-sighted in its
origins.


The Sequence
by J. R. Nyquist
Weekly Column Published: 08.28.2009
"The military power with the best tanks, aircraft and ships doesn't always
win a battle. Wars may be decided by many factors, including non-military
factors. For example, a military confrontation may be decided beforehand when
a society gradually turns to recreational drug use; or when the work ethic
collapses; or a significant segment of the society unwittingly adopts the
enemy's ideology; or the political elite of the country shows itself to be
corrupt and contemptuous of the public.
 
"The United States has been a great and stable power for many decades. One
should never, on that account, assume the invincibility of the U.S. The
American superpower has been strategically mismanaged for half a century.
During the Cold War the U.S. suffered outright defeats in Cuba, Laos,
Vietnam, and Cambodia. With the end of the Cold War came major Communist
advances in South Africa (1994), Congo (1997), Angola (2002), Venezuela
(1999), Brazil (2002), Bolivia (2006), and Nicaragua (2006).
 
"What is not understood, is that the Communist movement in general, being a
fifth column instrument of the Soviet Union during the Cold War, became even
more effective after the fall of the Soviet Union. As it happens, people
react to words like "Communism" in a negative way. Therefore, from the point
of view of strategy, it is better to dispense with the word "Communist" and
use another word. 

"The battle for what used to be called "Communism" is today a battle for
so-called "social justice." The advocates in this battle are "caring
individuals," who claim to represent the poor and the working class. Theirs
is an ongoing struggle, and is fought on many fronts, especially inside the
United States. The reason for accelerating their campaign within America is
important to understand: The United States is the only military power, and
the only economic power, strong enough to block the advance of Moscow and
Beijing. During the Cold War, the Americans blocked these countries from
advancing in many areas, including Africa, Southeast Asia, Korea, Taiwan,
Iran, Germany, and Central America. Even the Communist victories in Southeast
Asia and Africa were hardfought, and largely won through psychological
warfare and propaganda. On the battlefield, America remained dominant. 
 
"Given the obstacle presented, how could the Communist Bloc overcome
America's military power?
 
"Very simply, when one side in a global contest appears to give up, the
psychological impact is enormous. Organize the collapse of Communism from the
Kremlin itself and nobody in the West will question it. If the Communists are
giving up power, it is all good. But look at Russia and Eastern Europe today.
By giving up untenable positions in Germany and the Baltic States, the
remainder is yet dominated by agent networks and mafias aligned with Moscow.
In Ukraine, for example, there is a pro-NATO president whose power has been
undermined by a prime minister who works for Moscow. In Georgia, the Russian
troops press in while operations continue to unseat the pro-American
president. In Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania old
Communist structures dominate business and government. Despite their entry
into NATO, some of these countries may be described as nests of spies and
infiltrators whose mission has been to sabotage NATO from within.
This is not simply conjecture, but the conclusion drawn by the best-informed
political activists and researchers in Eastern Europe.
 
"The supposed Cold War victory of the West opened Europe to infection by
Moscow's clandestine armies. Already the Left formed a fifth column in
Western Europe. But these political forces were to be augmented by economic
interpenetration, energy dependence, and more.
 
"Because of its advanced weaponry, the United States cannot be easily
defeated in a war. But wars are won or lost before they reach the point of
outright military clashes. The order of battle in the next world war is not
merely a list of divisions or nuclear rocket regiments. This order of battle
chiefly consists in assets that include banks, major corporations,
non-government organizations (NGOs), environmentalists, peace activists, drug
cartels, organized crime syndicates, and the left wing of the Democratic
Party, which the Communists targeted for infiltration more than 30 years ago.
 
"In advance of any military campaign relying on tank divisions and nuclear
rocket regiments, it is necessary to soften the United States through a
series of clandestine and subversive moves: first, there was the use of
narcotics trafficking as a weapon, which began in 1960. Prior to that, there
was the infiltration of organized crime, the penetration of U.S. banks, and
the introduction of the Peaceful Coexistence Struggle by Nikita Khrushchev.
For those interested in the details of this, please refer to a book titled
Red Cocaine, by Joseph D. Douglass. (It is based on the testimony of one of
the highest-level Communsit defectors of all time, Jan Sejna.)
 
"The campaign involves the use of economic weapons, as well as educational
weapons. Every civilization nourishes within itself various cults opposed to
its values. That is basically what "Communism" represents. The specifics of
ideology are unimportant, for what is represented is essentially
anti-capitalism, anti-Christianity, anti-Western civilization. It can change
its name, it rhetoric, its tactics, but the movement in opposition to
civilization remains essentially the same in its determination to destroy
what presently exists. Taking this into account, take a good look around and
re-examine the former Cold War battlefield. Note the changes around the
globe, and the changes in Washington.
 
"What do you think has been happening over the last 20 years?
 
"Robert Chandler has written a book titled Shadow World: Resurgent Russia,
the Global New Left, and Radical Islam. What is valuable in Chandler's work
relates to his firsthand interactions with Leftist organizers in the United
States. According to Chandler, there is a vast network in America that aims
to bring down the capitalist system, destroy the U.S. Constitution, and break
up the federal system by getting control of the government.
 
"The driving forces in this top network," wrote Chandler, "are the 'thought
leaders' and other individuals in non-governmental organizations (NGOs),
including anarcho-communists and anarcho-syndacalists." He noted that
"leadingmembers are the Washington, D.C.-based revolutionary centers -- the
institute for Policy Studies ... as well as the coopted mainstream media and
politicians making up the Congressional Progressive Caucus and the 'Shadow
Party' hiding inside the Democratic Party...."
 
"According to Chandler, "The radical Left" is engaging in a new form of
political warfare in which the Left targeted "open spaces" in the American
social structure; namely, schools and universities, government, churches and
community organizations. The idea was, wrote Chandler, "to transform society
and replace traditional American values and institutions with neo-Marxist
values." At a Marxist conference that Chandler attended, one of the agenda
items was openly listed as, "The Strange Pleasures of Destruction in
Capitalist America." He relates that most of the participants "were
university professors." In the course of this conference, purely by accident,
he ran into Zapatista Subcommandante Marcos in an underground parking garage.
According to Chandler, "Orthodox communsits warned conference participants
about the dangers of wandering away from the basics of Marx and Lenin...." He
further explained that everyone present at the conference agreed it was
necessary to "destroy the state as a part of the coming socialist
revolution. There simply was no other way to achieve socialist governance in
the United States than to crush the existing capitalist system."
 
"Now the sequence should be clear. If the United States is bankrupt,
politically divided and internally sabotaged by the radicals of the Left who
have everywhere infiltrated the system, will there be a logistical support
network for maintaining our tanks, bombers and ICBMS?
What seems fantastic on first-hearing is actually everyday life for those who
are paying attention. Look at the world around you. There are those who have
been enriching themselves as they sabotage the economy and poison the
culture. They pretend to care about the poor and downtrodden. But they live
in mansions, collect enormous sums from government and business, advancing
the foreign policy goals of enemy dictators. The organized Left is a business
with access to billions of dollars. Its tendency is to serve as a fifth
column.
 
"Now imagine the collapse of the dollar. Imagine the collapse of the U.S.
federal system, the Constitution, and America's domestic tranquility. How
will the country defend itself from Russian missiles when our missiles no
longer work because they have fallen into disrepair after an economic
collapse? Here is asymetrical warfare at its best. Here is the beginning of
what I call "the sequence"."
 
 
http://financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2009/0828.html




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GHWB did two speeches with kids. The one you note and one that was
teleconferenced at NASA. The NASA speech was interactive and the kids got
to ask questions like they did with Reagan.

Reagan's talk and both of GHWB's speeches were met with rabid objections
from the Dems.

Lynda
All politicians should be limited to two terms: one in office, one in jail.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Wigglesworth" <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Homestead] Talk about disrespect!


> The complete text is at the website for Bush Sr.'s presidential library:
> http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id450&year91&month
>
> I think that Obama is very different than any president we've ever had.
> His
> ways of doing things are different. His entire staff is different, and
> runs
> the White House differently...very New Age, with tweets and everything on
> the internet. A lot of people don't like 'different' and are afraid of
> 'change', but Obama's style obviously resonates with many (younger?)
> people.
>
> I wonder about people's reaction to 'socialism'. We have a lot of
> socialized
> systems in this country that work fine...Social Security, Medicare, roads,
> airports,VA hospitals, etc. I remember when Reagan fired all the air
> traffic
> controllers, and socialized control of them, and, therefore, the
> airports.
> There was a fuss, but I don't remember him being called a 'socialist'.
>
> I'm not comfortable with Obama's methods or his policies, but then I've
> never agreed much with any president or the way he ran the country. I
> especially don't like Obama's advisors...Bush was in bed with Big Oil,
> Obama
> is in bed with Big Finance. But he was fairly elected with a mandate of
> 'change', so I'm willing to give him a chance.
>
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cathy" <goosecreekfarm AT gmail.com>
> To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Talk about disrespect!
>
>
>> Lynn, where did you find Bush Sr's speech?
>>
>> I'm glad they've decided to make the text of the speech available ahead
>> of
>> time. Maybe that will calm some parents' concerns. Some Americans, I
>> think, have been made very nervoius by Obama's campaign/administration.
>> Many were concerned by adulation of a political candidate that seemed
>> seriously inappropriate. Also a concern to many were the Marxist-style
>> posters, Greek columns, etc. The serious steps of taking (at some level)
>> control of certain financial institutions and car companies shocked many.
>> Even if each of these items (and others of concern) can be explained as
>> benign/necessary, they were unsettling events. Some Americans think that
>> if
>> all these things can happen in such a short amount of time, what else can
>> happen? And, I think, listening/watching to certain talk shows
>> exacerbates
>> concerns
>> Didn't vote for Bush, didn't vote for Obama. I've been throwing away my
>> vote for decades.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Lynn Wigglesworth
>> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I read the original, and they changed the one line about writing down
>>> what
>>> you can do to "help the president" (which Obama lifted directly from
>>> Bush
>>> Sr.'s speech). People went ballistic over the idea that children should
>>> be
>>> asked to help the president (wonder if people objected when Bush Sr.
>>> said
>>> it?), so they changed it to the line about setting short-term and
>>> long-term
>>> goals.
>>>
>>> Lynn Wigglesworth
>>> Tioga Co. PA
>>>
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