Homestead mailing list

[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

________________________________

From: Marie McHarry 
<< I suspect that Americans will have to take to the streets to protest 
corporate control of our
lives before things improve. >>>

Agree.

<<<Even here I read posts railing against "government regulation" of the sale 
of milk, eggs, and farm produce. >>>

About time.

<<  Yeah, the government enforces the regulations, but it's Big Bidness that 
wants to eliminate the competition.  >>

Agree.

<<<Let's be clear who the enemy is.>>>

Yes, let's be clear on who the enemy is.........

-----



We already are under corporate control thru the use of government force 
against the people instigated by corporations.

Some examples, maybe not such good ones, but these are just the first couple 
that popped into my mind:

Big Auto Insurance....Goal?  Expand the customer base.  How much ya wanna 
make a bet that behind the scenes they lobbied congress to FORCE everyone who 
wants to drive to PURCHASE auto insurance?  And even for those who can afford 
to pay for any damages assessed in an accident, making insurance an 
unneccessary expense, make the tort system results turn out in such a way as 
to force the fiscally responsible to have to buy insurance also.

Hurricane Shutters?  Hmmm, the good ones are really expensive, more expensive 
than the windows they cover.  How to expalnd the customer base?  Convince the 
insurance companies to NOT insure windows that are not protected by hurricane 
shutters, and simultaneously convince government to pass a law that minimum 
quality standards must be met on all new construction, i.e. FORCE builders to 
only purchase the really expensive ones....  Kills two birds with one stone.  
For homeowners who don't read the fine print the insurance company doesn't 
have to pay for broken windows not covered by shutters that meet minimum 
standards, and expands the customer base of the expensive manufacturer via 
use of government force on minimum quality standards.  (Think about that the 
next time you see people preparing for a hurricane using plywood.....)

How about native plant species nurserymen?  Is there only one local nursery 
that grows them, but has next to no customers, since customers are often 
looking at esthetics instead of origin?  No problem.  Convince local 
government to pass a law to FORCE people to have a minimum number of native 
plants based on number of square feet of land owned, along with fines and 
mitigation for non-compliance.  Wallah, guaranteed customer base.   (Sound 
ridiculous?  FYI, it isn't JUST big business that does this - this example is 
actually obtained from a real ordinance, something that I exposed publicly, 
clause subsequently removed.)

And you can go on and on, if you look past the government regulations to WHO 
stands to benefit financially that is behind the scenes of the regulations.

I'd bet that quite often behind the scenes it is all about gaining market 
share from competitors, or forcing market share when next to no customer base 
even exists.  And in the front of the scenes you will have politicians and 
other groups paid off the books to propagandize the reasons why people should 
be sheeples and go along with the ideas to transfer more money to those 
behind the scenes.

Yes, big bigness is an enemy, but big smallness is also an enemy.  IMO The 
real enemy are the sheeples.  They take the bait without a word of protest, 
and quite often agree with the propaganda, without thinking about who gains 
behind the scenes.  

The real dispute should be about how to effectively fight back.  More 
regulations just adds to the problem.  What needs to be done is to undo the 
regulations that are strangling us, and to fight back thru the simple use of 
the concept of "strike".  

Note: feel free to swap the words minority with majority in the below.  It 
matters not which word is used - it is the concept that is important.

If the majority think that Monsanto's genetic engineering of seeds is good 
and you don't.  Go on strike.  Don't buy seed from them.  And don't buy any 
food produced by those who purchase seed from them.  Let the masses hit the 
Monsanto's of the world in the pocket-book.  If there are a minority who want 
genetically altered seeds that don't reproduce on 2nd planting, let them buy 
it.

If the majority want to purchase big dairy milk - so be it.  But don't force 
the minority to purchase raw milk from a local producer.

If the majority of people want something, and plunk their own (not someone 
else's) money down - so be it.  Just don't force it on the rest who don't 
want the same thing.

And more importantly, if the majority of people don't want something and 
refuse to purchase something, well, that supplier either goes out of 
businses, or remains small to service the minority who does want it.

IMO, the real enemy is the sheeple who don't realize think that more and more 
regulations are the source problem.  More and more regulations enables the 
masses becoming corporate slaves (a/k/a FASCISM).



>From cayadopi AT yahoo.com  Mon Sep  7 15:18:06 2009
Return-Path: <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
X-Original-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Delivered-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Received: by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix, from userid 3002)
        id B54984C015; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:18:06 -0400 (EDT)
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on malecky
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE
        autolearn=disabled version=3.2.3
Received: from web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com
        [69.147.97.108])
        by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CA124C00B
        for <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:18:00 -0400 
(EDT)
Received: (qmail 52871 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2009 19:18:00 -0000
Message-ID: <163020.52830.qm AT web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
X-YMail-OSG: 
Hhn9LAcVM1keuZbUks0TchP3gh66PCcop7.Cqi64oxVwtWOc1aGnqEKK14TQTlHDjxfz3DuKHN4wyhTZGvYfL_CKfj2VvU56VUi4WXe6SZogLVuu0vHjRwJOxGal4DTc9gC1fxDHugopt98qdqvF4lPC4BiH9osSs9PmwqkyEdVvkUcPaWMciZPvtzYY5na79Zgz7Lm2R8T.3fDhgewJBGKgz5XV40COGu3itdP_6p68Jxr5JWrBqN6pcs9W6kch0Rlu8DRGNIEi5y17ffYgjrxi1pWFWDUIZUo4WGfy26wjBQ3dXr3ETuQ63CoIIHtSnUzO9NtTac1H6tXBcrJDFnOQBdmChnEu34P4F8aZaCWHf22Trrpt98aI8L5Y
Received: from [69.19.14.21] by web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP;
        Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:18:00 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2
References: <c21.56935361.37d52d0f AT aol.com>
        <18c9df6e0909061236g6c8c8639rb9e651d9216507c AT mail.gmail.com>
        <005101ca2f2a$b6a63c00$5e03fe0a@Moon>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
In-Reply-To: <005101ca2f2a$b6a63c00$5e03fe0a@Moon>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Talk about disrespect!
X-BeenThere: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
List-Id: <homestead.lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/homestead>
List-Post: <mailto:homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sympa AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=HELP>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:18:06 -0000


________________________________

From: Lynda lurine AT com-pair.net


BUMPER STICKERS !!!

<<<Big biz wouldn't get away with what it does if it didn't have little well 
paid puppets in the DC Whorehouse who *make* the regulations.  And that is 
where the rub is.  The government couldn't enforce regulations IF government 
didn't make those regulations to begin with.>>>

Exactly what I was trying to address in the email to Marie.

<<<So, government IS the enemy and I would think that would be quite clear!>>>

Agree, except I add on the sheeples who permit government to get away with it 
thru ignorance and apathy.
<<<<< Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR 
drivers so we can identify their corporate sponsors.). >>>>>>>>>>



>From cayadopi AT yahoo.com  Mon Sep  7 15:35:46 2009
Return-Path: <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
X-Original-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Delivered-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Received: by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix, from userid 3002)
        id 404094C015; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:35:46 -0400 (EDT)
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on malecky
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE
        autolearn=disabled version=3.2.3
Received: from web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com
        [69.147.97.108])
        by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2279C4C00B
        for <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:35:45 -0400 
(EDT)
Received: (qmail 60868 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2009 19:35:44 -0000
Message-ID: <898769.60509.qm AT web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
X-YMail-OSG: 
pE8lRvAVM1l90HecDUBrX.k_T.b4VAfHCXCYYhk0eYNvZMU0sLcHItTaiHywZKmkOfb.wDfPKgYKENbcZEcDNUHu9XeYfpUNfHouN.IW1OceRXKtKW3JvFa5i9LOANXFsf6WqP02gCyfAYzJyHP4o1ehrnHnM0EyiTUwkdkEpM4YfDwXOHpUqhot7due4fdLqOPcvMcRl7qe2Q99XOD4cTkwxOy6pdve4j9PYgwmE5yQ2B39SZnAxGfUx4gqCekzenM7XUwp_TFo.F0kBKZW39kkslXMZPrbsmPsOgeQkoAUPiLoci9NOi1sfE50bQ.xaLU7ZMTPHl5usqlxkz3uXKNkeJ7NAIpt_td6y7GKQYvfb7h3qyRXfA0a6kSNN.kDWso-
Received: from [69.19.14.21] by web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP;
        Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:35:44 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2
References: <c21.56935361.37d52d0f AT aol.com>
        <BLU0-SMTP60BF9096CE6BF859729EE9AFEC0 AT phx.gbl>
        <18c9df6e0909061531j2a00504yd50966e45ae63c06 AT mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
In-Reply-To: <18c9df6e0909061531j2a00504yd50966e45ae63c06 AT mail.gmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Talk about disrespect!
X-BeenThere: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
List-Id: <homestead.lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/homestead>
List-Post: <mailto:homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sympa AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=HELP>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:35:46 -0000


________________________________
From: Marie McHarry mmcharry AT gmail.com

<< The stimulus bill was supposed to provide
money for Web access,   which I think is really important for an
informed citizenry. Now that's something we could all agree on.>>>

Marie
-----------------

IXNAY on the agreeing part. 

 
Is the internet restricted?  Not exactly.

Are citizens denied access to computers and the internet?  Not exactly.

Free computers and free internet service access is already PAID for by 
taxpayers and are available in the library.


Therefore what is the additional money needed for?  

To buy computers for those who don't own one?  
To pay for people to have internet service?

I OBJECT.

Taking money away (a/k/a theft) from your neighbor to pay for something you 
want doesn't stimulate anything ......... except resentment.



>From cayadopi AT yahoo.com  Mon Sep  7 15:42:18 2009
Return-Path: <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
X-Original-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Delivered-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Received: by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix, from userid 3002)
        id A73EF4C01B; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:42:18 -0400 (EDT)
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on malecky
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE
        autolearn=disabled version=3.2.3
Received: from web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com
        [69.147.97.107])
        by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C1BE4C00B
        for <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:42:10 -0400 
(EDT)
Received: (qmail 468 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2009 19:42:09 -0000
Message-ID: <911330.99540.qm AT web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
X-YMail-OSG: 
sNCuoUAVM1m8SCLY3S0jsOPZiTbvzayR2UD.Lh89029asBvuBNln4CPo0Ce40FRTzrfrwyfBO6AfplPMI3RXhVWj5SsNN.iqgOaTuwdb6kQx5UOHFFMwBN85JlRZUrFDgybnccCPDTEQ9wvB88UQ7oKfSb9RIciy2w5GI8hkedwqfrUbr2I3EVYSdb43fAO50Tds2MpPszyywk6Sa3MbXOz6e.xOuK9YP1UmSnoBwL.K4JpRpbFUMn0ors85FQ0vNADEWxIaaqbvC.oWiU2az.Wr9.4nZ54_wwzEB1XgHHVyssudiGHZqwSbFZn6x6v_c9WhnflNUfDbvxgTUwOgCp6xuFX_.Qx3eva6HO8-
Received: from [69.19.14.21] by web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP;
        Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:42:09 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2
References: <86fab8600909062035x6b830a51jf8885f72de0fc53e AT mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:42:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
In-Reply-To: <86fab8600909062035x6b830a51jf8885f72de0fc53e AT mail.gmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Stray animals
X-BeenThere: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
List-Id: <homestead.lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/homestead>
List-Post: <mailto:homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sympa AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=HELP>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:42:18 -0000

That used to happen where I used to live all the time.

"They" have passed laws that makes it illegal for a private property owner to 
euthenize those unwanted pets that get tossed on the streets.

My solution?  I just captured them in the barn in a stall, and called the 
government animal control, when then uthenized them, of course at the 
taxpaying public's expense...........

Of course it would be much more cost effective to do the former rather than 
the later.... but then that just makes to much cents.


________________________________
From: Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com>
I hate when people choose my road to drop off their unwanted pets.




>From cayadopi AT yahoo.com  Mon Sep  7 15:46:40 2009
Return-Path: <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
X-Original-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Delivered-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Received: by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix, from userid 3002)
        id A3B394C01C; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:46:40 -0400 (EDT)
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on malecky
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE
        autolearn=disabled version=3.2.3
Received: from web63801.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63801.mail.re1.yahoo.com
        [69.147.97.101])
        by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9D8F4C019
        for <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:46:39 -0400 
(EDT)
Received: (qmail 73379 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2009 19:46:39 -0000
Message-ID: <376001.73345.qm AT web63801.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
X-YMail-OSG: 
3dP.NV8VM1kjTvTJzwEh912ZtDXASJL6OcZFACZUk9hiJsnoMqE5dfnnsqN3lyM1TmkYWs7YieppSJJDbbuL3pZ9iqjHrNYxKTYbR6THbhJlHNjy3qY3T2EkVFl8L3rlUlIuMh9E_QoNthL1xbjOJeiXMizikh1U9d7KOQsngwnVPmG2cjVj7bPH7_3DehNCVc1QtZ1TEjBrtsMWXM1zStKF3Gr9Q6x_XADaQ19X3DzWKMsH5e0tHjyoxrHYdJDN__mWRdOU9F3rkR85M1jxYqk8L32Vus_NTsHX2RaRGReHso7wzjAriRmqVLv3B2jvWY.6XHXYHK8NWr_ETSHVTZB2WYKGHwCK
Received: from [69.19.14.21] by web63801.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP;
        Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:46:39 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2
References: <4AA48892.80402 AT bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:46:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
In-Reply-To: <4AA48892.80402 AT bellsouth.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Pain free Genetics
X-BeenThere: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
List-Id: <homestead.lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/homestead>
List-Post: <mailto:homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sympa AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=HELP>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:46:40 -0000

Yep, the world has gone insane.......


Next they'll want to breed pain-free gazelles so they won't feel the pain 
when the lion attacks......

Of course, I think they've already genetically engineered politicians into 
being deaf to their constituents.............  LOL



________________________________
From: EarthNSky 

More playing God...




>From lurine AT com-pair.net  Mon Sep  7 15:57:06 2009
Return-Path: <lurine AT com-pair.net>
X-Original-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Delivered-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Received: by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix, from userid 3002)
        id 072E44C01D; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:57:05 -0400 (EDT)
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on malecky
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=STOX_REPLY_TYPE
        autolearn=disabled version=3.2.3
Received: from mail.com-pair.net (mail.com-pair.net [208.74.104.248])
        by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B62D4C01B
        for <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>; Mon,  7 Sep 2009 15:57:05 -0400 
(EDT)
Received: from Moon (dhcp-nat.com-pair.net [208.74.107.254]) by
        mail.com-pair.net
        (Rockliffe SMTPRA 8.0.4) with ESMTP id <B0015062455 AT mail.com-pair.net>
        for <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:57:04 -0700
Message-ID: <008b01ca2ff5$60782520$5e03fe0a@Moon>
From: "Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
References: 
<c21.56935361.37d52d0f AT aol.com><BLU0-SMTP60BF9096CE6BF859729EE9AFEC0 AT phx.gbl><00e301ca2f75$4a8c53b0$5e03fe0a@Moon><BLU0-SMTP67D1432D9FA00C8B46E9EFAFEB0 AT phx.gbl>
        <4b84f8ea0909070847i6dc6eb78q5a1716e3b64439c3 AT mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:18:38 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Talk about disrespect!
X-BeenThere: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
List-Id: <homestead.lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/homestead>
List-Post: <mailto:homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sympa AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=HELP>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead>,
        <mailto:homestead-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:57:06 -0000

The Dems raised a big fuss over GHWB's speech.  The biggest mouth was
Gephardt (D. Mo.) "The Department of Education should not be producing paid
political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce
smarter students."  That came complete with desk pounding and fists in the
air.

It was interactive and 5 schools participated along with NASA.  It also took
parental permission.

Lynda
All politicians should be limited to two terms:  one in office, one in jail.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cathy" <goosecreekfarm AT gmail.com>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Talk about disrespect!


> Lynn,  where did you find Bush Sr's speech?
>
> I'm glad they've decided to make the text of the speech available ahead of
> time.  Maybe that will calm some parents' concerns.  Some Americans, I
> think, have been made very nervoius by Obama's campaign/administration.
> Many were concerned by adulation of a political candidate that seemed
> seriously inappropriate.  Also a concern to many were the Marxist-style
> posters, Greek columns, etc.  The serious steps of taking (at some level)
> control of certain financial institutions and car companies shocked many.
> Even if each of these items (and others of concern) can be explained as
> benign/necessary, they were unsettling events. Some Americans think that
> if
> all these things can happen in such a short amount of time, what else can
> happen?  And, I think, listening/watching to certain talk shows
> exacerbates
> concerns
> Didn't vote for Bush, didn't vote for Obama.  I've been throwing away my
> vote for decades.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Lynn Wigglesworth
> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I read the original, and they changed the one line about writing down
>> what
>> you can do to "help the president" (which Obama lifted directly from Bush
>> Sr.'s speech). People went ballistic over the idea that children should
>> be
>> asked to help the president (wonder if people objected when Bush Sr. said
>> it?), so they changed it to the line about setting short-term and
>> long-term
>> goals.
>>
>> Lynn Wigglesworth
>> Tioga Co. PA
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Homestead list and subscription:
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/homestead
> Change your homestead list member options:
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/homestead/lurine%40com-pair.net
> View the archives at:
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/homestead