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  • From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Where are the protesters?
  • Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:30:37 -0700 (PDT)


 


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From: Lynn Wigglesworth lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com

<<< I don't like the whole slant of this article:that a country "wins" or
"loses" by how effective it is in forcing it's ideology on other countries. 
The socialist ideas in this country aren't a communist plot. They are coming
from within and are a natural consequence of the corruption that is making
the divide between rich and poor wider every year. >>>

Do you think that Putin and his predecessors and allies haven't been plotting
the final blow to America, by using the tactic of Collapse from Within?  I
thought the author made a great point ---- that any country who wanted to
defeat us must have had to consider our considerable advanced war technology
as being next to impossible to beat.  Therefore, you would have to attack us
in a non-conventional way, and do so with a long term plan in mind.

I agree that the divide between the rich and the poor grows wider every year. 
It is quite likely a very effective the way to destabilize a government, to
weaken it. 


<<<Like the Russian Revolution, the French Revolution, or in many ways the
American Revolution,
the peasants are fed up with the injustice of it all.>>>

I'm not well schooled enough in history to debate this.  The French
Revolution to replace monarchial rule led to a time of poverty and failures
of mutliple attempts to redefine rule, which eventually led to a coup d'etat
by Napolean, who became Emperor.  Clearly the Russian Revolution didn't lead
to propserity for the masses when they adopted their socialist form of
government..the gap between the poverty of the masses and the  wealthy there
was told to me by first hand account as my father worked behind the wall in
Russia many times..  The American Revolution, however, did lead to freedom
and prosperity for the masses when they adopted capitalism..... at least 
until such time as the greedy at the top and bottom figured out a way to
manipulate politicians into changing the rules in their favor, and little by
little capitalism was replaced with a combianation of socialistic and fascist
ideals.


<<<We don't  have anything even close to true capitalism or free markets
here. >>>

I agree.  We have been a stealth fascist nation for at least 50 years, that
is if fascism is defined as a merger of state and corporate interests.


<<<<By the same token, the USSR wasn't a true communist country; more a
totalitarian dictatorship. Ironically, those at the bottom were heavily 
regulated, while the few at the top flourished. Some things are universal,
huh?>>>>

Which brings me back to me pointing the finger at the sheeples..........
Sheeples must always be on the lookout for those few who are always looking
to abuse and corrupt in order to poor the masses.  When they don't, and we
haven't,,,, this disparity becomes more and more apparent.


It seems the disparity is more widely recognized by the sheeples now.... I
guess the question now is will this foster revolution?  And what will be
outcome if that happens?  Who wins?  Oppressors or the masses?  If the
oppressors, my guess is we become corporate slaves. 

And if the masses - which direction will they take?  Will they remember that
the US Consitution fostered an environment that permitted a twist on Karl
Marx................. "TO each according to his ability"  (Instead of FROM
each), which created the wealth of this country?  Will they form a
dictatorship, Marxist type state?  Or do we follow the French and flounder
about in one failed experiment after another until a new emporer arrives?



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My summer garden is about done. The blight finally got the tomatoes. The
garlic is harvested. The potatoes are done, waiting to be dug, as are the
Jeruselem Artichokes and carrots. The animal's mangels are huge (just the
part I can see above ground)...I marvel at them. The winter squash that
escaped the woodchucks are waiting for the first frost. The pole beans limp
on, but I've got more than I need, so I'm not good about picking them. The
fall peas are buried in weeds and should be attended to. I'm still getting
good things (tomatoes, cucumbers, melons) from the greenhouse, and will
until November..

I have my small fall garden mostly planted. I have beets, parsnips and leeks
that have been growing all summer, carrots (most of which didn't
germinate...again), some storage onions, lettuce (just transplanted), and
cabbage (still have to transplant). I have the hoops up, and can cover them
when needed. The two rows are side-by-side, so I can devise some kind of
larger second cover over both of them. I'd like to keep everything in the
ground as long as possible. Eventually the ground will freeze, and I'll have
to get them out by then.

We went a whole week or so with no rain; today it's raining again. And cool;
the high was 70 degrees, but with the gloom and rain it feels cooler. I
guess the summer that never got here is over.

Lynn Wigglesworth
Tioga Co. PA





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