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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

I don't exactly remember the look of the buggies.  I remember being told by 
local friends how expensive the buggies were and how "rich" the people were; 
regardless of how they lived.  Remember , I was young, listening to real 
superficial conversation.  My only personal observations of the people was 
looking at crafts/quilts? (It has been too long).  I just generally remeber 
casual, friendly business interaction.

Sunnyslope is on the outer edge of central phoenix.  generally it would be 
considered a working class area.  I haven't been there in years.  I went to 
one business, occasionally, out there ; many years ago.  I don't remeber it 
being a particularly attractive area for winter visitors; but , every part of 
the city has nice --even very nice- pockets, that , unless you live in that 
part of town, you are generally not aware

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--- On Wed, 12/3/08, sjc <indexer AT fairpoint.net> wrote:

> From: sjc <indexer AT fairpoint.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] It's almost over
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 4:55 PM
> bob ford wrote:
> > Thjanks again Susan, Iooked up "Old German
> Baptist Brethren" on Wikipedia.  It says they are part
> of the Anabaptist movement, as are Amish and Mennonites, I
> searched within the article for "Lediite" but it
> was not in the article.  
> >   
> Probably won't find it.  There are 3 Lediite churches
> ("church" in this 
> case being one church unit, formed of roughly the number of
> families who 
> can get together in one spot at one time, by buggy, ~7mph
> at a trot) in 
> west central IN where I grew up, a few in western Ohio, and
> some left 
> north of Harrisburg in PA.  They are not one of the groups
> that 
> particularly encourages a lot on interaction with the
> 'English' (any 
> non-believer, even if he's Chinese and speaks
> Mandarin), and therefore 
> there's little info available.  If there are other,
> newer groups I 
> haven't heard of them.
> > It's funny that the Amish community you mentioned
> was near Harrisonburg.  That is exactly the one I was
> talking about from so many years ago.  I was seeing a girl
> at James Madison at the time.
> >   
> That's a German Baptist group there, the buggy folks. 
> Sharp-edged, very 
> boxy-looking closed buggies, right?  Funny, I used to laugh
> at folks 
> detailing on kind of buggy from another, and here I am
> doing it....we 
> all age, I guess....  And you were within reach of one of
> the few 
> Brethren colleges at the time, since 'affiliated
> with' I think UVA to 
> get it's accreditation.  That form of
> "brethren" would be the Church of 
> the Brethren, more or less the umbrella term, (although
> opinions 
> vary!!); at any rate, the less conservative group/s.
> 
> As to Amish/Arizona, there are a few year-round retired
> sorts and quite 
> a few winter visitors somewhere called
> "Sunnyslope", which I admit to 
> never having tried to look up until now, DeLorme puts it
> right in 
> Phoenix, which seems odd but is not impossible.  Probably
> some really 
> small old housing or trailer park (they can afford and they
> can get 
> back/forth on foot), like they go to at Pinecraft, in
> Sarasota.  And a 
> brother-in-law of mine, Amish from IN, is currently
> 'north of Phoenix' 
> this winter building a house for another Amish person, but
> I don't know 
> how far north.  So there are some, but there will almost
> never be 
> significant populations where they cannot follow their
> farming 
> traditons, being on the soil and working it are very much a
> part of them.
> > Try to stay warm up there in Snowy Maine.  I
> haven't even put on a shirt today.  It was cool before
> daylight this am, but it's somewhere between 75 & 80
> degrees here now...........................................
> > _____________________________________________
> Just counted.  One wool longsleeve underwear, a t-shirt, a
> cashmere vest from SA, and 2 shirts over that, and a really
> nice fire downstairs, where I may go soon to get warmed
> up.....
> 
> News just said Odetta died.
> 
> SJ
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