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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

Oh yeah, the enfamous bum knee ""I was determined not to be physically fit," 
he explained during a debate in August 2002."

Five student deferments (University of Georgia, University of TN) and then 
the knee.  Six total.

He's a very strange Chicken Hawk.  He routinely votes against veterans (23 
times against veterans programs, against funding for research into the 
"signature wound" of the Iraq War, against guarantee of home time between 
deployments, against the New GI Bill For Veterans of Iraq & Afghanistan, and 
against additional funding for armor and equipment the military currently 
needs.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "EarthNSky" <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>


> Absolutely not...92 was the year of Ross Perot, and being the third
> party aficianado that I am, I voted for Perot, both in 92 and in 96.
> Like I have said, I may not even like the candidate, but if there a
> third, he will get my support.
> And as far as draft dodging, I had to go back and refresh myself on
> Clinton-couldn't recall his details, but I think Saxby was worse than
> Clinton.  Both went to great lengths to avoid the draft.  If they were
> truly a conscientious objector or had honest religious reason that were
> maybe stretched(like Mitt's mission to France), it would be one
> thing...but to go to the lengths to avoid service that these men did,
> well, that doesn't fly with me.  I really dislike Al Gore, but at least
> the guy did his tour in Vietnam as a photojournalist, and Kerry is about
> as far left as Bill Ayers<g>, but he served(who can forget those three
> purple hearts?) and I respect that...Draft dodging may be more accepted
> in other parts of the country, but in my mind, you better have a good
> reason.  Saxby did not.   He took 4 or 5 deferments, depending on how
> you count it..and near the end claimed he had a bum knee.  You should
> know that he has always been an athlete, and is a serious golfer.  But
> that is only part of the reason I called him an SOB.  Someone with a
> record like that, IMO, should be making up for it somehow, maybe like,
> in their voting record..Saxby's record has been poor in support of
> veterans. In 2002, he was running for his seat against Max Cleland, a
> Vietnam Vet who is a triple amputee.  Chambliss questioned his
> leadership, patriotism, and commitment to fighting the war in Iraq and
> Afghanistan.  IMO, that's too far.
> If there are any of you out there who avoided the draft, well, I suppose
> you had your reasons.  To me, it has always seemed hypocritical for
> someone to do that, and then to stand up and say, I want to represent
> you in Congress(or president or whatever office)...I want to serve you,
> the people..yada yada...
> I believe that people either believe in public service or they don't.
> In the time of a draft, when service to one's country is needed to the
> point of being mandated, then if one avoids that mandate, that tells me
> that he most likely values his own life over that of his fellow man.  I
> suppose there is not much wrong with that-it may even be the natural
> reaction, and in fact I can think of many legitimate, honorable reasons
> to avoid being drafted(new father, ailing parent, etc.etc) in addition
> to being a conscientious objector.  We each make the best decision we
> can for ourselves and our families.  But there are always some who are
> just, as Saxby has been called, a Chicken Hawk..and in my opinions,
> Chicken Hawks need to lay low, not run for political office.  Many
> people go into politics not because they want to serve their fellow man,
> but because they want the fame and the power...their ego calls
> them..Saxby is one of those people, I think.
> In contrast, Jim Martin actually had polio as a child, and yet, he did
> not use that as any kind of excuse.  He served his tour in Vietnam. I
> don't agree with this man's politics any more than I agree with
> Chambliss', but from a personal perspective, this speaks to Jim Martin's
> character.  He's kind of middle of the road, and appeals to people in
> both parties, i.e., he steps across the aisle.  He's a bit soft on crime
> for my taste, and there are a few other areas where I differ, but in a
> normal election, I could vote for the guy.
> Here's the irony:
> What really sucks is that as I sit here and write this...all against
> Chambliss, after I go and vote for the guy...I am no better than the
> politicians that I am so disgusted with, those who vote for political
> reasons(and lobbyist's greedy offers) and not to represent their
> constituents or their own principles.  I feel like throwing up.
>
> Bev
>
>
> rayzentz AT aim.com wrote:
> > Bev, didn't you vote for Clinton years ago? I am not remembering for
> > sure. If I remember correctly, and you did, why does the draft
> > dodging bit bother you now?
> >
> > Just curious.
> >
> > Ray
>
>
> --
> “Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to
> hate. Hate leads to suffering.”        Yoda
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