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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Out here, where there are lots of (legal and not) Mexicans (and other South 
of the Border immigrants); we just say " Mexicans".  Even other Hispanics 
(usually citizens) will say "the Mexicans".

  White  (Non =Hispanic) Americans are called Gringo or Americano,by 
Mexicans,  right here in the U.S.  American Indians also call us 'white", or 
"whitey" (like the black panther gangs of the 60s) if they are drunk and in a 
bad mood.  Navajo only get mad if you call them Hopi .  If you mean no harm 
or insult, usually you will not cause harm or insult....bobford


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--- On Fri, 11/7/08, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:

> From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] The longest post yet-Anger
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 6:10 PM
> Marie McHarry wrote:
> > I'm not Moon, but I'd probably say something
> like, The guys in the
> > barn are talking about....
> 
> I suppose that works if all the guys in the barn are of the
> same group.
> What works in a monoculture often does not work in a
> multiculture.
> 
> Bev
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 6:49 PM, EarthNSky
> <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> Moon, You said you had worked side by side with
> "unpapered Mexicans",
> >> which to me sounds degrading, like they are dogs
> or something.  Are you
> >> sure they were all Mexicans?  No Guatamalans or
> Salvadorans?  Let me
> >> ask you this..
> >> Say you are in a big barn full of race horses and
> you are working with
> >> 'immigrants' who speak Spanish(how's
> that for unlabeling due to race?)
> >> Suppose you hear a group of those immigrants
> talking about a horse who
> >> appears to be doped.  When you go to tell the barn
> owner what you have
> >> heard, what do you say?
> >> A. I heard the Hispanics talking of doping
> allegations?
> >> B. I heard the immigrants who speak Spanish
> talking of doping allegations.
> >> C.  I heard people talking about doping
> allegations
> >> D.  I heard that there are doping allegations.
> >> E. I heard the aliens talking about doping
> allegations.
> >> F. I heard unpapered Mexicans talking about doping
> allegations.
> >> G. I heard the illegal immigrants talking about
> doping allegations.
> >> H. None of the above.
> >>
> >> Now, if you choose C or D, the next question the
> owner asks you is going
> >> to be 'what people?'.  If you choose G,
> that is threatening to the
> >> owner.  If you choose E, the owner will call 911
> for you.
> >>   A seems most logical to me, but that would be
> labeling and
> >> grouping-which you don't like, so perhaps you
> would say B.?  B just
> >> seems awkward to me.
> >>
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