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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Moon, yesterday you accused James of self-aggrandizement.  He explained his 
travels and work.. Just how long and hard did you actually work with 
immigrants?  I never have.  I have employed quite a few over the years, but 
never actually worked with any.  I am always interested in the experiences of 
those with a more compassionate and productive nature than my own......bobford



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--- On Fri, 11/7/08, rayzentz AT aim.com <rayzentz AT aim.com> wrote:

> From: rayzentz AT aim.com <rayzentz AT aim.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] The longest post yet-Anger
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 10:09 AM
> Wow.   Kind of arrogant about that whole social experience
> thing, aren't you?
> 
> Personally, I no longer care what people call me. Never
> really did, but even less, now.   People use whatever
> label is available that allows them to keep whatever biases
> they may hold near and dear.   Your use of a any
> particular "label" tells me much about you, as my
> use would say much about me.
> 
> Just because someone would never "say" such a
> thing, does not by any means imply that the label is not
> being used, internally.
> 
> And I wonder, since we are on the individual bandstand
> here, why BO does not call himself a mulatto? After all,
> that's what he really is, to those who actually care
> about race.
> 
> Ray
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paxamicus AT earthlink.net
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 9:50 am
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] The longest post yet-Anger
> 
> 
> 
> I did not mean to twist your words, and if I did, I
> misunderstood you.  
> lease feel free to correct.
> All "black people" are not the same. Period, full
> stop. We are all  
> ndividuals. Shall I call all poor white southerners
> "crackers"?  I  
> hink not.
> The governor of Alaska IS a liar.
> I have lived abroad. I have worked side by side with
> illegal  
> mmigrants, and celebrities. I have lived in the north and
> the south.  
> es, my cultural experience is slightly more broad than
> someone who  
> as spent their whole lives in one place.
> 
> n Nov 6, 2008, at 12:57 PM, EarthNSky wrote:
> > This is not the Moon I knew.  The posts I have seen
> from you in the  
>  last
>  day or so have shocked me.  You have twisted my words and
> implied  
>  things
>  that I have not even thought of, called me a bigot, called
> the  
>  Governor
>  of Alaska a liar, and now this.
>  I don't know how, nor do I have to time, to answer
> this post, only to
>  say that I am not substituting the phrase 'black
> people' for the n- 
>  word.
>  In addition, you claim to have a broader cultural
> experience?  Please.
> 
>  Bev
> 
>  paxamicus AT earthlink.net wrote:
> > Maybe they haven't down there because people still
> insist on
> > identifying people by colour. Substitute
> "nigger" for "black people"
> > and you will see how offensive it is. I am willing to
> bet that I,
> > little oil-sucker-downer-finger-on-the-bomb that I am
> have had
> > slightly broader experience than you in this matter.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 6, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>>> How many PEOPLE? PEOPLE! NOT BLACKS! They,
> like you, are
> >>>> INDIVIDUAL
> >>> PEOPLE.
> >>>
> >> How utterly naive.  If we all just hold hands and
> sing a chorus of
> >> "I'd like to buy the world a Coke"
> then all the racial realities
> >> of our country will just disappear.
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