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[Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>]

Bev; if we can't get rid of a wildly unpopular President like Bush, I 
doubt that we'd get rid of any other unpopular president. Bush has (from 
what I've read...I don't know the law) done things for which he can be 
prosecuted, but he's still there.

I just read an article in the 11\03\08 Time magazine about "7 things 
that could go wrong on election day"
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1853246_1853243,00.html

There is a big difference between registration fraud and voter fraud.
 From the article, it sounded like it's difficult to vote fraudulently. 
It sounded like more likely problems will be that people have been 
mistakenly purged, or the machine isn't working or loses votes, or 
there's a long line, so people give up.

 From the article:
"We can go to the moon, split atoms to power submarines, squeeze profits 
from a 99 cent hamburger and watch football highlights on cell phones. 
But the most successful democracy in human history has yet to figure out 
how to conduct a proper election. As it stands, the American voting 
system is a worrisome mess, a labyrinth of local, state and federal laws 
spotted with bewildered volunteers, harried public officials, partisan 
distortions, misdesigned forms, malfunctioning machines and 
polling-place confusion. Each time, problems pop up on the margins; if 
the election is close, these problems matter a great deal."

Lynn Wigglesworth


EarthNSky wrote:
> I know there were problems in both the 2000 and 2004 elections.  For the
> most part, it only involved one or two states.  Let's just say fraud is
> found in all of the ACORN states, and in Ohio there ends up being
> additional registration fraud, and say in GA there is ballot fraud, and
> in Michigan, machine rigging, as well as small number voter fraud in
> many other states, etc. etc....So Obama is elected by a landslide, say
> 80/20..
> No one does anything at first.  Lots of scandal and no action.  There is
> a lot of apathy, people take the well, we will give him a shot at it,
> attitude.
> Then in year two or three of his presidency, something happens and his
> approval rating drops as low as Bush's.  People get fed up and want him
> gone, they call for impeachment. Congress, being Democratic like Obama,
> wouldn't impeach him, would they?  No checks?
> Clinton was impeached by a Republican congress...he still had a high
> favorability polls despite that.
> Bush had low polls numbers, possibly/probably got into office
> fraudulently-either way, close to a majority of voters that put him in
> office have now done a 180 degree about face and hate the guy, and had a
> Republican Congress for 6 of his 8 years until the tide turned and a
> check was provided to balance, that being Democratic control and
> Democratic push for Mr. Change.
> 
> Is there any protocol for removing a president/leader in the event that
> Congress refuses to impeach him, should the populace feel the need to do so?
> 
> What other checks are there to prevent someone from hijacking the
> election, the Congress, and the country?  Could it be just that easy to
> become a dictator?
> 
> Bev
> 
> 
> 
> paxamicus AT earthlink.net wrote:
>> You only need to look at the 2000 election to answer that question 
>> yourself, I think. Apathy and the old "possession is 9/10ths" answers
>>  that question, right along with buying judges. On Oct 30, 2008, at
>> 2:25 AM, EarthNSky wrote:
>>
>>> A question for those who have studied political science... What
>>> happens if a president is elected, and after the inauguration, 
>>> there is found to be widespread voter fraud proven in multiple
>>> states that would change the outcome of the election.  Is there a
>>> recall? -- “Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger.
>>> Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”        Yoda 
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