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  • From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Jeremiah Wright talks to Bill Moyers
  • Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:24:38 EDT



> Just as many
> Americans, I think about thirty percent, still believe there were
> weapons of mass destruction, there are a large number who will always
> remember the out-of-context quotes.

Not to put words in your mouth, Gene, but this paints the picture of 30% of
the people being such utter rubes that they stand there slack-jawed with
flies
buzzing and insist that there were missles, nuclear devices, canisters of
poison gas and it's all been covered up .... just as there are many
slack-jawed
who believe we never went to the moon and that there was no housing bubble.

How many of that 30% are simply using a different defintion of WMD's than you
have in mind. What WAS found was an entire government department for
developing nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. Also mobile labs
equiped to
cultivate biological pathogens, machinists shops set up with the tools and
dies
to make the components for dirty bombs, plans for the same, and so on and so
forth.

Now I agree with the loose consensus here, there were no WMD's an that as an
excuse for the war is a sham. It would have made no difference, if WMD had
not been the excuse, there would have been another sham excuse. The reason
was
to control the oil market and no one was ever going to say that.

But the 30% aren't necessarily delusional, they are just setting the bar a
bit lower in defining "having WMD's"


I've read the transcrips (no TV here either) and I see nothing in the
transcrips of the entire sermons nor Moyers' interview that changes a thing.
Wright
is still a racist and hate monger. It is still very significant that Obama
sat through sermons such as this for 20 years and held Wright to be his
spiritual leader.

There are at least 30% (and a few on this list) that if Obama were caught on
video and in front of witnesses selling secrets to the Chinese while
molesting
children and poisoning the public water supply and taking drugs ... would
STILL say it was being taken out of context and was an unfair criticism ....
and
was racist.

I said before that this was coming and behold......Obama came on the
presidential scene as political 'tabula rasa' having done nothing hitherto
but be glib
and black. To fill in the void of what he is actually about, after the
change the way we are changing the changes thing began to wear thin, there
came
Jeremiah Wright. Many remonstrated that it was unfair to judge Obama by the
company he keeps, although we have precious little else by which to judge
him.
Hardly had the screen door closed and here came Bill Ayers .... same
remonstrations. Then Hatem El-Hady. Same song third verse.

This is a long lay, it has many, many verses to come. You have seen but the
merest beginnings of it.



They will not be open to knowing

> that the most extreme was in fact a quote from a white US ambassador.
> And they certainly will not read the transcript. Sad to say, many
> people don't want the truth, they want their position corroborated.
> Repeat anything long enough and it becomes the truth to those who do
> not think.
>

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