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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

O.K., perhaps if folks watched and listened without their rosey tinted 
glasses to the debate last night they will have come away with a better 
understanding of how Teflon Obama thinks and thus would better understand 
what James is saying.

Obama stated that he came to religion because it was a tool.  T-O-O-L!  Not 
because he had an "ah-ha" moment or an apithany or because he was raised in 
religion.  It was a tool to further his work (ie political aspirations).

In his book he says he went looking for religion so that he wouldn't be left 
out.  Because the folks he was working with wouldn't consider him an 
outsider.  Again, a T-O-O-L.  A means to get what he wanted.

So, he sits in his ivory tower and still doesn't "get" the average man 
because he is NOT the average man.  And for whatever reason he has no 
empathy for the average man.  He simply sees them the same way he sees 
religion -- a T-O-O-L, a way to get where he wants.

Thus, he puts his foot in it and this time the Teflon didn't work.  This 
time folks are jumping on *part* of what he said.  They still don't have the 
brass b*lls to take him on over the part where he says people devolve into 
racism but maybe someone will grow some and nail him on the part that I find 
even more objectionable than the rest.

Ya know, I come from a pretty poor part of the country along with coming 
from a race that is routinely on the fringe of everything.  I don't find my 
county to generally be bitter but rather angry.  I don't find that everyone 
has suddenly gone to voting for guns or buying them nor have they all become 
religious fanatics.  And, they are no more racists now than they were in the 
past nor will be in the future.  When we get really angry, we do something 
about it.  Ask Frank Riggs <g>  Ask WallyWorld!

People are bitter because they are bitter.  People are religious or 
religious fanatics because that is who they are.  People are either gun nuts 
or not, worried about their Constitutional rights or not.  People are 
racists or not.  AND, people are against ILLEGAL immigration or they are 
not.  And the person who is all of the above *because* of the economy is a 
rare bird indeed!

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> My respose to both the above is the same thing.  Sure there are discontent
> people everywhere, some people's mode of life is to be discontent.  The 
> point is
> this, and I am a bit frustrated in trying to express it because it is 
> quite
> clear I am not doing a good job ... so let me try, as you say, to 
> clarify...
>
> The point is this ...There are a lot of people who put confidence in their
> guns and in their religion.  You can count me in that and don't ask what 
> my
> religion is because I won't tell you.  And there are a lot o people who 
> are
> discontent (and you may NOT count me among those).  But the two have 
> NOTHING TO DO
> WITH EACH OTHER.  Obama's tragic flaw is that he thinks they do.  He is 
> saying
> people put confidence in guns and religion BECAUSE they are politically
> discontent.  That is not only unwise an bigoted, but it is extremely 
> stupid.
>
> Let me recap before I go on.   Yes, there are people as he describes who 
> put
> confidence in guns and religion, do not put confidence in government, and 
> are
> politically discontent.   But the conclusion that the one is BECAUSE of 
> the
> other is his bias and mindset.  And it is deeply offensive.