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[WILLIAM <billymegab AT yahoo.com>]

A wonder Woman who cooks up a storm.. Can it get any better than that!  Are 
you available in Aug/Sept when my harvest begins???????
   
  William 

Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com> wrote:
  
>I'll bet she looks as good as Linda Carter (who played
>wonder woman on TV)

She's a gorgeous Viking queen.


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Gotta agree with that.. Turned off my electric hot water heater and found my 
electric bill plummeted.  Heat what I need now with Propane.  Want to get a 
solar hot water system but it's still too pricy!  will have to rig up an 
outdoor shower that is solar powered for the summer months!

Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com> wrote:  
>Propane is way too expensive AND the cost of propane anything is 
>double to triple the cost of the plain old electric. You can get 
>propane fridges and
>freezers from most propane suppliers.
>
>If the cost of running them is the main criteria AND you don't mind doing
>the ice removal every so often, go with an Energy Star that isn't frost
>free. Second is an Energy Star that is frost free and last on your list
>will be propane.

All good advice. Let us not swing the brush too wide, however. 
Propane is a better choice than electric for heating appliances. 
Plus, if your propane tank is large enough you are immune to electric outages.

I have long wanted a large propane tank. Got one last fall; it holds 
a thousand gallons. I will now refill it once per year at the time 
that propane is least expensive. Electric outages will not affect my 
ability to heat water, cook, heat the house. I have an RV fridge that 
is three-way, twelve volt, 120 volt, and propane. It is small but a 
good backup for when big storms knock out the electric. We were once 
without electricity for six or seven days.

If I relied on electric for anything I would either have redundancy 
or a good generator. 


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At 6/21/2006, you wrote:

>Gotta agree with that.. Turned off my electric hot water heater and found 
>my electric bill plummeted.  Heat what I need now with Propane.

Heating is the absolute worst use of electricity.

>   Want to get a solar hot water system but it's still too pricy!  will 
> have to rig up an outdoor shower that is solar powered for the summer 
> months!

You could rig up a quick and dirty system with black plastic pipe plumbed 
into the inlet of your hot water heater.  Add some valves for draining and 
a thermo syphon tank or relief valve.



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WILLIAM wrote:
> will have to rig up an outdoor shower that is solar powered for the
> summer months!

Been there, William. We put a plastic valve in a washtub, added a short 
garden hose and spray nozzle, set it up on a plywood "shower stall" and 
later found a big plastic skylight that I hinged over it. We didn't have 
running water so I had to fill it with buckets of cold well water in the 
morning.

Sure felt good after working all day, even through December. I wouldn't 
say it ever got hot though. That was outside of Richmond Virginia. We 
used the same principle for a similar one here in Pennsylvania that 
served us well for 20 years until I finally put in a water heater and 
real shower just a couple years ago.