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[WILLIAM <billymegab AT yahoo.com>]

At the momet I'm just thinking of putting up a 45 gal drum  painted black 
over the shower that I can fill with the hose and having it gravity fed to a 
shower head mounted on a post.  That should work for 6 months of the year!  

Don Bowen <don.bowen AT earthlink.net> wrote:  At 6/21/2006, you wrote:

>Gotta agree with that.. Turned off my electric hot water heater and found 
>my electric bill plummeted. Heat what I need now with Propane.

Heating is the absolute worst use of electricity.

> Want to get a solar hot water system but it's still too pricy! will 
> have to rig up an outdoor shower that is solar powered for the summer 
> months!

You could rig up a quick and dirty system with black plastic pipe plumbed 
into the inlet of your hot water heater. Add some valves for draining and 
a thermo syphon tank or relief valve.



Don Bowen Awl Knotted Up KI6DIU
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Gene:

> Propane is a better choice than electric for heating appliances. 
> Plus, if your propane tank is large enough you are immune to electric 
> outages.
> 

There's another aspect to this as well.  During the cool and cold months, we 
cook on wood and heat most of the water in the stove's reservoir.  Now, of 
course, it it far too hot to have a fire in an insulated house.  Some cooking 
gets done outdoors and we could be doing a lot more of this with, alas, the 
materials for the clay oven sitting patiently in a pile and waiting 
construction.  
There's also plans for an outdoor cooking shed with another wood range.

In the mean time we needed some method of cooking in the hot months so we 
opted for a propane range.   Even here in the heart of TVA country where 
electricity as about as cheap as it gets, propane is still cheaper.

But the main thing is the "cooking with gas" effect.  The oven is at full 
heat in 60 seconds and the burners are on and at full heat in an instant.  
Skillets, griddles, and the bottom of the wok heat up under a direct flame 
with very 
hot heat with the cook in full control.

I know the solid top ranges are supposed to overcome some of those 
objections, but those suckers are expensive and we're a rather rough lot in 
the kitchen 
with our iron cookware.  

A wood range is by far the best all things considered, but they were designed 
in the days of 12' ceilings and cooks were admonished to get out of the 
kitchen if they couldn't stand the heat.

James