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 Again, the laws in question apply to citizens.   C I T I Z E N S.   US ones. 
  Again, if you are on some foreign terror suspects speed dial, refer to my 
last post.   Those laws don't apply to the executive branch when tapping 
foreign nationals.   He is not thumbing his nose.   He is right.
 
Does it really bother you who wears dresses and who doesn't.   Almost every 
scotsman I know does from time to time (although they get really upset if you 
refer to it as a dress), and they seem ok.
 
As far as proof regarding effectiveness.   I have a friend who is a private 
investigator, and who deals with wiretaps (on citizen's, I might add) and he 
says wiretaps are not effective.   It is the rare occasion when they are that 
make it all worth the effort.

Ray
 
...still humbly waiting to be educated.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:04:32 -0800
Subject: Re: [Homestead] A point of view


War has to be declared.

And there are laws in place for how to do these wire taps.  He had 72 hours 
after doing them to get the official papers.  He said "that doesn't apply to 
me."  That is thumbing one's nose.

Furthermore, I think folks are missing the single most important thing here. 
Proof that any of those wire taps were necessary OR productive.

Won't be long before we find out he secretly wears dresses also.


Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <DSanner106 AT aol.com>
>
> Bush did call on leaders of both parties, and requested a ruling from
> whitehouse attourneys on the legality of this before proceeding, It has , 
> of
> course, not been determined he did anything at all wrong here, or that 
> Presidential
> powers in time of war do not allow this, so to state this as a  violation 
> is
> incorrect. Personally, if the President, no matter who he or she  is gets 
> a
> call saying the terrorists we are tracking, that have promised  attacks in 
> the
> US are calling people in the US, I would hope they would make  the same
> decision every time. The first job of our Gov. is to protect us, and  this 
> is a Known
> enemy.

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