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[sindi keesan <keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org>]

yOn Tue, 3 May 2005 3aoo-cvfd AT dea.spamcon.org wrote:

> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:14:54 +1200
> From: 3aoo-cvfd AT dea.spamcon.org
> Reply-To: baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
> To: baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [BL] SVGA Xserver
>
> sindi keesan wrote:
> >
> > Default mouse is still 2button serial.
>
> As I said, the included /etc/XF86Config is simply a
> copy of the one that works on my system.  My mouse
> is a 2-button serial.
>
> I expect most users will do their own configuration
> by running xf86config (or by editing the existing
> /etc/XF86Config).

Can you just edit it manually and if so would you mind putting in the
proper line needed for PS/2 and 3button with # in front of it?  xf86config
is one of the most confusing programs I have ever run, and I kept having
to start over and kept making different mistakes each time.


> > Also could you include # 1024 resolution or is that
> > specific to each card?
>
> My monitor is not capable of doing 1024.

We find monitors at the curb here which do 1600.  Is there a low-end
setting for 1024 that you could put in the config file anyway, with a # in
front of it, so people would not have to tangle with xf86config?
Do you need a 1024 monitor in order to get the modelines section?  Is that
specific to the card or the monitor?

> > Could I edit the config file to remove 800x600 for
> > a computer with monochrome screen and 640x480 resolution,
>
> Yes.  Don't worry about the Modelines; just remove the
> "800x600" from the "Screen" Modes.

Or #?

>
> > Maybe you could eventually write up a simple script to
> > edit the config file to change just mouse and max resolution
> > and colors, as for Xvesa.
>
> The current Xvesa is the simple option.  Installing
> and configuring a full Xserver is more demanding
> (because some parameters are hardware specific).

I was afraid of this - so you cannot just choose some low-end setting that
would work for all cards.

> xf86config is the appropriate tool for that job.
>
> > xf86config took me three days to get right each time.
>
> The critical values are HorizSync and Vert Refresh.
> When you find ones that work on a monitor, write
> them on a sticker and attach it to the monitor.

Can't we just choose the lowest possible setting for 1024 instead?


> BTW, /etc/XF86Config has nothing to do with kernels
> or libraries.  So, if you have used the same hardware
> with BL2 (or other version of Linux), you can copy
> that /etc/XF86Config to BL3.  As long as you have
> the right Xserver installed, you should be OK.
>
> > Xvesa lets me choose resolution and color depth each
> > time I use it - 640 for viewing our photos, 1024 to
> > view wide websites.
>
> A full Xserver will let you change resolution on the
> fly (by pressing CTRL-ALT-+) or use the screen as a
> moveable window on a much larger virtual screen.

Xvesa did not seem to do this.  Do I start at the highest resolution and
then press the keys?


> > This server is, unfortunately, nearly 4 times the size
> > of Xvesa, even without including fonts
>
> the extra fonts are less than 10kb.
The server is the problem, not the fonts.

> > Not suitable for a 2-floppy linux.
>
> It was never meant to be.
>
> > I wonder if someone knowledgeable could write a
> > smaller version of it.
>
> That's what Xvesa is.

Does it take a lot of extra bytes to get 8-bit color and not to get
interference from config.sys?

Is there any way to compile XSVGA a bit smaller, maybe with less features
but not the problems of Xvesa?

I will experiment with 1024.  Websites are being written much too wide.  I
run into 1600-wide sites now when I use 1024.  Maybe I can get some
general config file working that does not explode any monitors (lowest
refresh rates) and lets you # out modes you do not have.  I cannot seem to
notice any difference between the looks of different refresh rates.

>
> Cheers,
> Steven
>
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