Biblical Hebrew Forum

[davidfentonism AT aim.com]

  Karl, are you saying the NT church makes a distinction between "freedom 
from observance of the law" versus "freedom from the penalty of the law" or 
have they combined the two? It appears to me the two ideas are combined in 
one doctrine which asserts both 'freedoms.' Examples include their Sunday 
'sabbath' and anti-Torah doctrines. (I am not Jewish and was, indeed, raised 
in the 7th-Day Adventist church.)
 
 Moreover, aren't your references to the promised new covenant pointing to 
the Promised One (Acts 3:22; Acts 7:37; Deu 18:15 & 18:18; ) like unto Moses 
(the Servant of the LORD)? Thanks for your reply, Karl.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: kwrandolph AT gmail.com
 To: davidfentonism AT aim.com
 Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
 Sent: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms, was: "Desire 
of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37
 
  David: 
 
 Whereas the Greek meaning of grace outside of the New Testament may 
 have had the meaning of freedom from the observance of the law, inside 
 the New Testament it had the Hebrew understanding of freedom from the 
 penalty of the law. 
 
 Freedom from the observance of the law has a different source, 
 starting with the understanding that Jesus gave a new covenant as 
 predicted in Jeremiah 31:31 and implied in Deuteronomy 18:15–18. 
 
 This is getting a little off topic, except as an illustration of how 
 the New Testament continued the Hebrew thought patterns from Tanakh, 
 even though in a different language, namely Greek. 
 
 Karl W. Randolph. 
 
 On 11/20/06, davidfentonism AT aim.com <davidfentonism AT aim.com> wrote: 
 > 
 > A most excellent example, Mr. Randolph! There are many more like this. For 
 > example, the Greco-Roman understanding of "grace" as 'freedom from 
 > observance of the law' vs. the Hebrew one of 'freedom from the penalty of 
 > the law.' 
   
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