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  • From: davidfentonism AT aim.com
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms, was: "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37
  • Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:50:34 -0500


A most excellent example, Mr. Randolph! There are many more like this. For
example, the Greco-Roman understanding of "grace" as 'freedom from observance
of the law' vs. the Hebrew one of 'freedom from the penalty of the law.'

-----Original Message-----
From: bjwvmw AT com-pair.net
To: kwrandolph AT gmail.com; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms, was: "Desire of
Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37

Dear Karl,

It suffices. See also my reply to Peter. Also I was thinking of the Hebrew
word TSADDIQ and cognate and the Greek word DIKAISOSUNH and cognates. Both
refer to "conforming to a norm." That norm would be legal, ethical, social,
cultural, etc. To the Hebrew, the conformity to a norm was a divine norm as
revealed in the Torah, i.e. God's character as revealed in the Law of Moses
(later to mean the entire Tanakh). To the Greek, while early in Greek
literature it referred to the divine norm revealed by the gods, it primarily
referred to the legal or social/cultural norms. In fact, Genesis 38 has
Judah saying of Tamar that "she is more righteous than I." Now, here is
where a mixture of cultural and legal are mixed.

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
----- Original Message -----
From: "K Randolph" <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms,was: "Desire of
Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37


> Bryant:
>
> On 11/20/06, Bryant J. Williams III <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net> wrote:
> > Dear Karl & Peter,
> >
> > Please give examples.
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