Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>]

George:

This is interesting: the root is claimed to exist, yet different people have 
different lists where it is to be found. The concordance I was told to buy by 
my teacher when I was a student was by Lisowski, which is where I got the 
list of verses I listed, and I see that BDB have a different list. One of the 
verses found on both lists has one translation I proposed as a possibility, 
Revelation 2:27 has a different translation allowed by the unpointed text, 
neither of which uses “smash”. That’s just one example. As a result, I find 
the evidence for the existance of that root weak, at best.

By the way, in the Job passage, who is the subject? What form is this verb? 
How does it fit with the previous and following verses? What is meant by 
KBYRYM seeing as other uses of this lexeme as a noun in Tanakh refer to 
blankets? Or is this adjectival use with the force of a noun, with the basic 
idea of drawn out (make long of time) or expansive (make long width and 
length)?

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel AT juno.com>

> 
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:12:57 -0500 "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
> writes:
> > Chris:
> >
> > My first question that I ask myself after your response, is there
> > really a R(( root that has the meaning of “smash”?
> >
> > In checking my concordance, it lists all of five verses where it
> > is found, three qals (Jeremaih 15:12, Psalm 2:9 and Job 34:24)
> > and two hitpaels (Isaiah 24:19 and Proverbs 18:24).
> >
> > Assuming that it exists, and the H- prefix is a interrogative,
> > that makes the question “Will iron smash iron from the north,
> > also bronze?” which in the context could refer to “Will your
> > weapons smash the weapons of the enemy?” followed by verse 13
> > where God declares that Israel will not succeed in its defense,
> > but will be handed over to the enemy.
> ___________________
>
> Karl,
>
> Yes, it really seems to exist.  BDB lists Jer 11.16; 15.12; *** Job 34.24
> ***; Ps 2.9; Pr 25.19; Is 24.19 (with a note to delete final He).  Note
> the Job passage -- it seems difficult to take it as anything (otherwise
> proposed) other than "smash."
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> ___________

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