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  • From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
  • To: Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12
  • Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:29:42 -0500


----- Original Message -----
From: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel AT juno.com>

>
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:18:46 -0500 "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
> writes:
> > George:
> >
> > This is interesting: the root is claimed to exist, yet different
> > people have different lists where it is to be found. The
> > concordance I was told to buy by my teacher when I was a student
> > was by Lisowski, which is where I got the list of verses I
> > listed, and I see that BDB have a different list. One of the
> > verses found on both lists has one translation I proposed as a
> > possibility, Revelation 2:27 has a different translation allowed
> > by the unpointed text, neither of which uses “smash”. That’s just
> > one example. As a result, I find the evidence for the existance
> > of that root weak, at best.
> >
> > By the way, in the Job passage, who is the subject? What form is
> > this verb? How does it fit with the previous and following
> > verses? What is meant by KBYRYM seeing as other uses of this
> > lexeme as a noun in Tanakh refer to blankets? Or is this
> > adjectival use with the force of a noun, with the basic idea of
> > drawn out (make long of time) or expansive (make long width and
> > length)?
> >
> > Karl W. Randolph.
> _______________
>
> Subject: )"L in v. 23 above
> Form: Q impf 3 ms
> Connection: Note that in v. 23 they are said LaHa:LK )eL_)"L ***
> B.aM.i$:P.f+ *** In v. 24 judgment is rendered --YfRoa( .
>
Are you sure that these answers are right? Absolutely sure? The reasons I
asked the questions above is partially rhetorical. BTW, what is “smashing
blankets”? How does L) XQR fit in? Are we dealing with a figure of speech
whose meaning has been forgotten? Quite frankly, “smashing blankets” doesn’t
make much sense, but you might make a case for “shaking out blankets”, or do
you have something else in mind?

> In Re 2.29 it would seem that it is based on the LXX translation of Ps
> 2.9 -- in which they apparently understood it as a form of R(H.
> Therefore, you can hardly base a judgment regarding R(( [2] on this.

I just pulled a Harold Holmyard in quoting someone else’s translation. I just
used this as an example of others besides myself who do not agree that Psalm
2:8 has an example of a R(( II root. In the pre-Masoritic (unpointed) text,
this is a grammatically allowed reading. While I don’t expect it to be
convincing, that ancient Hebrew speaking people did not agree that this was
an example of a R(( II word should give pause.
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> ___________

Karl W. Randolph.

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