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- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12
- Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:15:37 -0500
George:
When we look at the root and other derivatives of GBR we have the
concept of overpowering, to (be a) master over someone else. In the
adjectival use it has the meaning of (overpowering) force.
KBR has the meaning of drawn out in distance or time, in distance
including as a flood blankets the land. Derivatives include blanket
KBYR, lattice work MKBR, distance KBRT and drawn out in time, as in
"you are long winded" Job 8:2.
Where does "mighty" come from? If KBYR in Job 34:24 is "mighty" as
an adjective, then what is the noun that is the object of YR(? I
see it used as a noun here, and the other uses of KBYR as a noun is
as a "blanket", why a different, otherwise unattested, meaning
here? Therefore if YR( means "smash", what is being smashed?
Grammatically, it can mean "flap blankets" as in shake out.
In short, grammatically "smash" is not a necessary meaning, and I
have trouble getting it to fit the context and verse.
Oh yes, as "smash", how does it fit with the previous and following verses?
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel AT juno.com>
>
> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:46:32 -0500 "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
> writes:
> > George:
> >
> > You didn't read my total question, did you? Had you done so, >
> you'd have answered differently, because I asked in my original >
> question how does KBYRYM fit in, as where it is a noun elsewhere
> > in Tanakh, it has the idea of a blanket? Smashing blankets
> sounds > absolutly nutso. Or do you have a different translation
> for the > lexeme? What about the other parts of my multi-part
> question?
> >
> > Karl W. Randolph.
> ___________________
>
> But K.aB.iYRiYM does not mean "blanket" but "mighty" (I wonder about its
> relationship to G.fBaR).
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> ___________
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Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12
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Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12,
Karl Randolph, 01/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, Heard, Christopher, 01/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, George F Somsel, 01/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, Karl Randolph, 01/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, George F Somsel, 01/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, Karl Randolph, 01/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, Karl Randolph, 01/07/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, George F Somsel, 01/07/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, Karl Randolph, 01/07/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, George F Somsel, 01/07/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, Karl Randolph, 01/07/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, George F Somsel, 01/08/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12, Karl Randolph, 01/08/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Syntax of Jeremiah 15:12,
Karl Randolph, 01/06/2005
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