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[Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>]

Koreen 

Totally agreed about the cooperation, including marketing cooperation, and 
about your comment  "we might learn more from one another and become more 
effective as teachers."

Sorry, but I don't know what part of the US you are in and about the level of 
cooperation between permaculture teachers there.  

But I would like to point out that there already exists a lot of cooperation 
between permaculture teachers in many regions of the US. The area I am most 
familiar with is my home region of the Pacific Northwest.  There has been 
lots of collaboration and cooperation and exchange bettween pc teachers in 
our area over the decades.  Lots happens at our annual Pacific Northwest 
Permaculture Convergence.  A lot is coming together right now in our regional 
association of pc teachers, Cascadian Permaculture Institute. It aims for 
high standards of teaching and for collaboration between CPI members.  CPI is 
just now coming together formally, but we have many years of informal working 
together.  

i know that there is lots of intra-regional cooperation in many other parts 
of the US as well. California, Southwest, Colorado, Northeast, Southeast, 
upper Midwest, etc. 

Of course there is a long ways to go and much more to do, but I didn't want 
any new reader to get the impression there is no cooperation among 
permaculture teachers.  

At some point we will have a North American Permaculture Convergence to 
further this process on a national level.  Until then every permaculture 
teacher should be doing their due diligence to connect with and cooperate 
with other permaculture teachers in their region.

Permacordially,

Michael Pilarski

Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds

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--- On Mon, 2/11/13, Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Who is this?
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 1:59 PM

I think we can learn from successful marketing techniques no matter who is 
doing them. I have ethical problems with some things he does, like start 
"social" Facebook pages and hide who he is on them and then use them to 
market his products. 

I would like to see more cooperation between permaculture teachers. I think 
it would be easier if we pooled marketing and made more effort to get to know 
one another and our strengths. I think that if we worked together more and 
used some (ethical) marketing strategy, we would all have more than enough 
students, and we might learn more from one another and become more effective 
as teachers. 
 
Koreen Brennan

www.growpermaculture.com
www.facebook.com/growpermaculturenow
www.meetup.com/sustainable-urban-agriculture-coalition


________________________________
 From: loren luyendyk <loren@sborganics.com>
To: Permaculture Listserve <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Who is this?
 

It looks like the campaign is going good, despite some obvious concerns 
regarding the content/teacher/ethics.  (I have never met this person, so I 
cannot vouch either way for their credibility).

Maybe there is something to learn from this?  Cooperation not competition...? 
 I agree with the concept personally, I think the more people are exposed to 
PC the better.  But now again we are back to the issue of 
curriculum/accreditation/consistency- what are they learning and is it 
similar to what we all "should" be teaching.  (Obviously the hard part with 
an online course is for students to have hands-on experience.)

Anyone can object to the campaign if you believe it is using "prohibited 
content" here:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/313242

Loren Luyendyk
805-452-8249
Permaculture Design and Education
ISA Certified Arborist #WE-7805A
www.sborganics.com
www.globalpermaculture.com
www.surferswithoutborders.com


> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:05:00 -0500
> From: venaurafarm@bellsouth.net
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Who is this?
> 
> On 2/11/2013 1:23 PM, Cory Brennan wrote:
> 
> > There are already a number of well developed on line curriculae
> > available - Dan Hemenways' Barking Frogs course, an Australia course
> > that I've heard very good things about (forgot the name of the
> > organization), and there is a partial course that is free on-line
> > that was just released, done at NCSU. And there is on-line curriculum
> > at permaculture media. And probably some I'm not aware of.  These are
> > developed by people who are using permaculture in their lives,
> > walking their talk.
> 
> Can you provide a list of links to their respective websites or other 
> online resources they use?
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