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Reread Patrick's post from yesterday, please. It provides a litany of actual 
facts on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan that show how the agricultural 
mission enables the military to further entrench themselves in the region and 
further their intelligence activities.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:45:17 
To: permaculture<permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Reply-To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Movement thinking (was Designing a Movement)

On 8/19/2010 3:14 PM, LBUZZELL@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Cory and everyone,
>
> On the military using permaculture for purposes that might conflict with
> PmC ethics, a few previous posters have spelled those dangers in great
> detail so I won't repeat it here.

I think you should repeat that here so we can see who said it and what 
the context was. If you're referring to some of the posts I've read
they can hardly be taken as gospel while writing off the need to
repeat them.

 > I'm certainly no expert on CIA thinking  or
> military/corporate strategy during occupations, but I'm also not naive 
> enough
> to believe that the introduction of new agricultural methods by an
> occupying  army has no ulterior motive.

You're saying that the US military-agricultural presence in Afganistan 
is the same as it has been in Iraq (gmo/moninsaneto/chemical/pesticide
dominated) with certain mandates for the Iraq farmers/agriculture sector 
of the economy favoring US/international ag corporations.
How could you assume such a thing. Seems like you're shooting first and 
asking questions later, after the fact when you might consider giving 
them the benefit of the doubt, innocent until proven guilty.

> Also, previous posters have speculated that if permaculture is introduced
> to a culture by an unpopular occupying army, this negative attitude towards
> permaculture might endanger future permaculture teachers in that area.  I
> have no information that this has ever happened, but logically I think it's
> a  possible result to consider.

I think nearly all of this is 1) unfair 2) paranoid 3) unnecessary 
fear-mongering 4) inaccurate


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