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[rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>]

I agree that content should be the key. I do think one could have an inviting modern site that is simple and low bandwidth. documents can be simple html (though PDF would be better)

If someone is serious about finding out information about fruit growing, I cant see them being put off by a design issue unless it is difficult navigate. On the other-hand, if one cant access information because there system or browser is to old to deal with java-scripts or massive amounts of graphic data and etc. that can be very frustrating.

So in really I think a "middle ground" can be achieved in this aspect.  
In fact many sites I see seem to to be more "bells and whistles" and difficult navigation than content.



rob

Thomas Olenio <tolenio@sentex.net> wrote:
>  Hi Tanis,
>
> The issue is that the young, innovators and
>  early adopters of society have
> new computers, have current software, and expect current formatting and
> content styles in web pages.
>
> Asking for the web page to cater to older computers is like asking young
> people to drive 20 year old cars instead of buying current models.
>
> The issue would be to insist your library has more current equipment, or
> they maintain the software updates better.  If you went into the library and
> they only had last months (last years) newspapers you would complain.  The
> same rule should apply to computers in libraries.
>
> Later,
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of tanis cuff
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:58 AM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Getting the word out WAS Re: NNGA membership declines
>
> An comment about on-line newsletters: make sure they are the plainest &
>  most
>
> simple version so that older computers & softwares can handle them!  I use 
> library computers, and friends' & families'-- a range of softwares and only 
> 1/2 handle graphics well.  I want THE INFO in the newsletter; I don't need 
> lots of pictures, except the necessary "this is what the disease or insect 
> looks like"-- and even that is usually more technically efficient by linking
>
> to a useful URL.  I don't need pretty backgrounds or borders or decorative 
> texts.  I've tried subscribing to on-line newsletters, and the more 
> attractive the editors tried to make them, the worse the newsletters were 
> for downloading.  I cancelled the worst ones after explaining this to the 
> editors and still getting "oh that's too bad your computer is junk" as 
> reply.  Keep the on-line newsletter simple and those who can't afford a new 
> computer every 3 years can accept it.
>
> For those who don't use computers at all, I don't have an
>  answer except keep
>
> them connected to the best of the on-line stuff like has been compiled in 
> the Pomonas of late.  And I can only hope at least one computer-savvy person
>
> is learning from these non-computer people and distributing the info on-line
>
> & in the Pomona.
>
> On the topic of young people feeling excluded from NAFEX: I've seen almost 
> 100% willingness to help "newbies", no matter who or what age they are.  In 
> fact, I've run into the attitude more of "A younger person growing fruit?!  
> Let me shower you with info!!"  The worst negative thing I've seen is the 
> idea that if you don't own enough land to have at least 100 trees, you have 
> no right to give or receive info.  Fortunately a rare idea in NAFEX!
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Spidra Webster <>
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Getting the word out WAS Re:  NNGA membership declines
> Date: Sun, 1 Jul
>  2007 20:59:58 -0700
>
> We are having that problem in our local chapter of CRFG and I know
> that a number of other garden specialty groups are having similar
> problems. At 41, I am one of the youngest members of our chapter.  I
> think some of it is that the generation gap has been accentuated by a
> technology gap.  Our older members insist on a paper newsletter
> although an online one would cost the chapter less.  Those who have
> the most knowledge to share are less likely to participate in email
> lists.  I think some compromises will need to be made and groups are
> going to have to look at it as a "marketing challenge" although non-
> profit garden groups of this size are loath to think of outreach as
> marketing (and god knows I have no love of marketing...)
>
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