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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism
- From: Tommy Tolson <healinghawk@earthlink.net>
- To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism
- Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:10:40 -0500
Indeed!
Smiles.
Tommy
On 6/4/10 12:16 PM, Tradingpost wrote:
The snag in living in tune with nature is we're part of nature, it's part of
us. We are not separate and apart from it; that's where the problem lies.
paul tradingpost@lobo.net
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
--Henry David Thoreau
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On 6/4/2010 at 8:48 AM Dan Conine wrote:
Paul wrote: "What is 'living in tune with nature'?"
My semi-scientific, logical answer is that all species produce some kind
of usefulness for their (nature's) future over and above what they
consume in resources. Erwin Schroedinger (yes, the guy with the cat in
the box) called Life the "Anti-Entropy" force. For humans to be
considered as 'in tune' with nature, they would have to collectively be
putting more back than they take.
Anyone who believes that some form of capitalism/democracy/humanism is
going to do that is fooling themselves. Everything about our idea of
'civilization' is oriented toward taking advantage of nature for the
profit of humans until nature fails, then trying to 'fix' something up
just to keep doing the same things.
Lots of people like to say they 'want to live in tune with nature', but
doing so goes against everything in the human imagination since we
evolved it. To live in tune with nature requires that humans all get a
lobotomy and become apes again.
"This will all end in tears. I know it." -Marvin the Paranoid Android
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism,
Tradingpost, 06/03/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism,
Tommy Tolson, 06/04/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism, Tradingpost, 06/04/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism,
Tommy Tolson, 06/04/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism,
John D'hondt, 06/04/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism, pbunch, 06/05/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism, Tradingpost, 06/03/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism, Pego Rice, 06/04/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism,
Dan Conine, 06/04/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism,
Tradingpost, 06/04/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism, Emery Mitchamore, 06/04/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism, Tommy Tolson, 06/04/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism,
Tradingpost, 06/04/2010
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[Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
Doug Willhite, 06/04/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
Tommy Tolson, 06/04/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
pbunch, 06/05/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
John D'hondt, 06/05/2010
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pbunch, 06/06/2010
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Ken Hargesheimer, 06/06/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] sloped land and soil,
Ken Hargesheimer, 06/06/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
pbunch, 06/06/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
John D'hondt, 06/05/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
pbunch, 06/05/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism, pbunch, 06/05/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
Tommy Tolson, 06/04/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism,
Dan Conine, 06/04/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism, Tommy Tolson, 06/05/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism,
Tradingpost, 06/03/2010
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