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Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism
- From: Dan Conine <dconine@bertramwireless.com>
- To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism
- Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:48:00 -0500
Paul wrote: "What is 'living in tune with nature'?"
My semi-scientific, logical answer is that all species produce some kind of usefulness for their (nature's) future over and above what they consume in resources. Erwin Schroedinger (yes, the guy with the cat in the box) called Life the "Anti-Entropy" force. For humans to be considered as 'in tune' with nature, they would have to collectively be putting more back than they take.
Anyone who believes that some form of capitalism/democracy/humanism is going to do that is fooling themselves. Everything about our idea of 'civilization' is oriented toward taking advantage of nature for the profit of humans until nature fails, then trying to 'fix' something up just to keep doing the same things.
Lots of people like to say they 'want to live in tune with nature', but doing so goes against everything in the human imagination since we evolved it. To live in tune with nature requires that humans all get a lobotomy and become apes again.
"This will all end in tears. I know it." -Marvin the Paranoid Android
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Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
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Re: [Livingontheland] the truth about vegetarianism,
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