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  • From: Emery Mitchamore <emitch@att.net>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The Truth About Vegetarianism
  • Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:37:32 -0500

I really have to compliment you, Paul, for your consistency in recognizing
and publicizing a "middle way". There is nothing that exasperates me more
than the simplistic either/or of most conversations, even here. "Living in
Tune with Nature" is a good phrase to illustrate the idea: You try to
understand the ways of Nature wherever you happen to be, and use the METHODS
of Nature to meet your needs and goals. Living in Tune With Nature does NOT
mean "no impact". You have a right to be here, and to live your life fully.
You just don't have the right to destroy the lives of others (people,
animals, plants, etc.) in the process.

E. E. "Mitch" Mitchamore
www.hillcountrynatives.net



On Jun 4, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Tradingpost wrote:

>
> The snag in living in tune with nature is we're part of nature, it's part
> of us. We are not separate and apart from it; that's where the problem
> lies.
>
> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
> Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
> --Henry David Thoreau
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>
> On 6/4/2010 at 8:48 AM Dan Conine wrote:
>
>> Paul wrote: "What is 'living in tune with nature'?"
>>
>> My semi-scientific, logical answer is that all species produce some kind
>> of usefulness for their (nature's) future over and above what they
>> consume in resources. Erwin Schroedinger (yes, the guy with the cat in
>> the box) called Life the "Anti-Entropy" force. For humans to be
>> considered as 'in tune' with nature, they would have to collectively be
>> putting more back than they take.
>> Anyone who believes that some form of capitalism/democracy/humanism is
>> going to do that is fooling themselves. Everything about our idea of
>> 'civilization' is oriented toward taking advantage of nature for the
>> profit of humans until nature fails, then trying to 'fix' something up
>> just to keep doing the same things.
>>
>> Lots of people like to say they 'want to live in tune with nature', but
>> doing so goes against everything in the human imagination since we
>> evolved it. To live in tune with nature requires that humans all get a
>> lobotomy and become apes again.
>>
>> "This will all end in tears. I know it." -Marvin the Paranoid Android
>>
>>
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